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LeonJLoire

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:42 am


First, basic information regarding who I am and represent.

I am 23 years of age.
I am married to a 23 year old woman.
I've been polyamorous for a few years now.
I am an armor crewman for the Army and currently deployed.

I am the master in a successful S&M relationship. My wife is my slave/pet/toy as much as she is my lover and reason for being. I enjoy video games, martial arts, combatives, golf, reading, working with technology, and various other rather nerdy pass times such as cards and board games. I am the leader of a decent sized online community currently spanning seven or eight online games with a couple hundred people. I consider myself an entirely logical person. I am in complete control over my emotions and find the majority of them useless. For example, I choose not to feel anger or sadness. I believe research and study is the best path towards a successful relationship. I have read several relationship books and dozens of online articles for the sake of a happy relationship. I studied everything about my wife from the moment I decided I wanted a relationship with her. Due to this, I am confident that I can solve any of her problems and continually make her happy. I am easy to please, and I put others before myself. I don't drink unless it's new years, my birthday, or when I get back from a long bit of training. I smoke because I don't like people who try and tell me what and what not to do. That and it helps relieve the stress of work. As of right now I am deployed in Afghanistan but thats really all I can say about that. Operational security won't let me say anything more. I am currently (or at least I was before I deployed) training my wife to be a good slave. Once I am satisfied with her development she will be awarded my permanent collar. As of now she has only eared my mark on the back of her neck. When I am ridiculed for the relationship we have, or when I am told I am a horrible person for treating her like a lesser being. I always tell people to look at it like this. She loves and trusts me enough to give me her entire being, to guide her life completely. And I love her enough not to squander such a gift, and to make sure she is happy and healthy. I have yet to hear a logical rebuttal. I am open minded, patient, and generally a good guy at heart. In fact I have been told numerous times from the people that I work with that despite all the hell they put me through, I remain the nicest guy they know. To clarify, I used to get treated so bad before I moved platoons that they had to investigate the NCOs in charge. I am stubborn in my belief that anger solves nothing and refuse to give people the pleasure of being angry. I have much to offer in the ways of life and relationship experience. And I enjoy being asked questions about anything. I hide nothing. Any conversations will be appreciated as it will help my perception of time feel accelerated.  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:04 pm


Just got off guard to the bad news of being put on more guard shifts in the future. Some of the leadership screwed up so now the rest of us have to pick up the slack. Too tired to do much else, I'm going to bed before my next guard shift in two hours.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:55 pm


My brother in law (ex brother in law, really) was in the Canadian military. I've heard some of the horror stories. May the worst never touch you. heart

Hearing you talk about your wife like that, you can't help but feel the love. smile She's an incredibly lucky woman to have found a master who cares for her so well. I've got a friend locally, and his mistress isn't nearly as caring and loving as you are. smile It makes me glad to see there are those in the D/s world who love that completely. smile Makes me feel a little safer too, since I've been dipping a toe in, so to speak. lol

Hopefully your deployment ends soon and you can go home. I'm currently another country away from my partner, it sucks. I'm sure the time zone difference for you guys is a lot larger than the one I deal with though.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:31 am


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Just got off guard to the bad news of being put on more guard shifts in the future. Some of the leadership screwed up so now the rest of us have to pick up the slack. Too tired to do much else, I'm going to bed before my next guard shift in two hours.

Ouch! I hope you have an uneventful shift and they get their mess sorted out quickly.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:47 am


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My brother in law (ex brother in law, really) was in the Canadian military. I've heard some of the horror stories. May the worst never touch you. heart

Hearing you talk about your wife like that, you can't help but feel the love. smile She's an incredibly lucky woman to have found a master who cares for her so well. I've got a friend locally, and his mistress isn't nearly as caring and loving as you are. smile It makes me glad to see there are those in the D/s world who love that completely. smile Makes me feel a little safer too, since I've been dipping a toe in, so to speak. lol

Hopefully your deployment ends soon and you can go home. I'm currently another country away from my partner, it sucks. I'm sure the time zone difference for you guys is a lot larger than the one I deal with though.


Well like I said, I take pride in me and my wife's relationship. It honors me to have you speak so highly of it. A lot of the people I work with told me not to get married, they tell me all the time my relationship is doomed. They lash out at what they refuse to understand. Not once have I been asked why we do what we do, they are firm in their beliefs. That's fine by me, I really don't care. It's not a debate they are willing to have without an open mind. I have always done my best to help others out with their relationships. I've been talking to a woman for a couple years now, helping her out with her relationship problems on and off. I have three firm beliefs when it comes to loving another. The time difference is bad yes, but it hasn't been so horrid. I leave messages or love notes when I get off guard or back from a patrol. She is on during my nighttime most of the time. Though since I downloaded a bunch of things to my XBOX for her to play she has been a little distracted.

You said your "dipping a toe in" the S&M lifestyle. Anything I can help out with? I've done days worth of research on that subject alone during the past half year.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:49 am


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LeonJLoire
Just got off guard to the bad news of being put on more guard shifts in the future. Some of the leadership screwed up so now the rest of us have to pick up the slack. Too tired to do much else, I'm going to bed before my next guard shift in two hours.

Ouch! I hope you have an uneventful shift and they get their mess sorted out quickly.


An eventful shift might make time go by faster. All I have to do for making time go by is chain smoke or read boring playboys. The heat, humidity, and armor I have to wear don't make it any more fun. I don't know what we are going to do about this mess. We are so underpowered it's sad.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:05 am


LeonJLoire
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My brother in law (ex brother in law, really) was in the Canadian military. I've heard some of the horror stories. May the worst never touch you. heart

Hearing you talk about your wife like that, you can't help but feel the love. smile She's an incredibly lucky woman to have found a master who cares for her so well. I've got a friend locally, and his mistress isn't nearly as caring and loving as you are. smile It makes me glad to see there are those in the D/s world who love that completely. smile Makes me feel a little safer too, since I've been dipping a toe in, so to speak. lol

Hopefully your deployment ends soon and you can go home. I'm currently another country away from my partner, it sucks. I'm sure the time zone difference for you guys is a lot larger than the one I deal with though.


Well like I said, I take pride in me and my wife's relationship. It honors me to have you speak so highly of it. A lot of the people I work with told me not to get married, they tell me all the time my relationship is doomed. They lash out at what they refuse to understand. Not once have I been asked why we do what we do, they are firm in their beliefs. That's fine by me, I really don't care. It's not a debate they are willing to have without an open mind. I have always done my best to help others out with their relationships. I've been talking to a woman for a couple years now, helping her out with her relationship problems on and off. I have three firm beliefs when it comes to loving another. The time difference is bad yes, but it hasn't been so horrid. I leave messages or love notes when I get off guard or back from a patrol. She is on during my nighttime most of the time. Though since I downloaded a bunch of things to my XBOX for her to play she has been a little distracted.

You said your "dipping a toe in" the S&M lifestyle. Anything I can help out with? I've done days worth of research on that subject alone during the past half year.


For me and my ld boy, it's more of a bedroom game, and more on the bondage end than s/m. I'm a big wuss and don't like pain at all. lol I do have his collar, but I only wear it when we're playing the game and the rest of the time, we're equals rather than him being my master.

Before him, I've never entered in to anything like this, so that's why I say I'm dipping a toe in. biggrin He's the first I've let tie me up or collar me or given any kind of control over me to. It's been... I'm not sure how to describe it, but it's been good. I like it. Comforting maybe? That's not quite it, but it is part of it. I'm still exploring how it feels. I just got home from a 2 week visit with him, so I've got nothing but time to think about it.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:23 am


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LeonJLoire
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My brother in law (ex brother in law, really) was in the Canadian military. I've heard some of the horror stories. May the worst never touch you. heart

Hearing you talk about your wife like that, you can't help but feel the love. smile She's an incredibly lucky woman to have found a master who cares for her so well. I've got a friend locally, and his mistress isn't nearly as caring and loving as you are. smile It makes me glad to see there are those in the D/s world who love that completely. smile Makes me feel a little safer too, since I've been dipping a toe in, so to speak. lol

Hopefully your deployment ends soon and you can go home. I'm currently another country away from my partner, it sucks. I'm sure the time zone difference for you guys is a lot larger than the one I deal with though.


Well like I said, I take pride in me and my wife's relationship. It honors me to have you speak so highly of it. A lot of the people I work with told me not to get married, they tell me all the time my relationship is doomed. They lash out at what they refuse to understand. Not once have I been asked why we do what we do, they are firm in their beliefs. That's fine by me, I really don't care. It's not a debate they are willing to have without an open mind. I have always done my best to help others out with their relationships. I've been talking to a woman for a couple years now, helping her out with her relationship problems on and off. I have three firm beliefs when it comes to loving another. The time difference is bad yes, but it hasn't been so horrid. I leave messages or love notes when I get off guard or back from a patrol. She is on during my nighttime most of the time. Though since I downloaded a bunch of things to my XBOX for her to play she has been a little distracted.

You said your "dipping a toe in" the S&M lifestyle. Anything I can help out with? I've done days worth of research on that subject alone during the past half year.


For me and my ld boy, it's more of a bedroom game, and more on the bondage end than s/m. I'm a big wuss and don't like pain at all. lol I do have his collar, but I only wear it when we're playing the game and the rest of the time, we're equals rather than him being my master.

Before him, I've never entered in to anything like this, so that's why I say I'm dipping a toe in. biggrin He's the first I've let tie me up or collar me or given any kind of control over me to. It's been... I'm not sure how to describe it, but it's been good. I like it. Comforting maybe? That's not quite it, but it is part of it. I'm still exploring how it feels. I just got home from a 2 week visit with him, so I've got nothing but time to think about it.


Bondage is a huge part of our relationship. I find it very special to have a woman trust me so much to let me bind her like that. It takes a huge amount of trust from both parties to be able to get to something like that. We didn't start doing that until around year three. But just because we do the S&M thing all the time doesn't mean we aren't equals. I don't expect her to do everything because I am the master. She does the cooking and cleaning because she is good at it. I manage the tech in the house, pull weeds, and do the driving because I am good at it. Just because she calls me master and obeys my commands doesn't make her any less equal to me. I know full well she is more intelligent then me. She is far more in touch with her emotions (of course I was also apathetic for a good several years). Looks are a matter of perception of course but I am a firm believer that women are better looking then men, she is no exception. And of course she has talents I do not. Due to her submissive personality, its my job to guide her in a way that her talents and skills are put to good use, and that she grows along side me as my partner. I know there are plenty of things she is better at then I, just as I have things I am better at then her. I acknowledge these abilities and remind her that she is well worth my love and adoration. She used to have a bit of a confidence issue and I have been working hard to get rid of that. I guess it's hard to explain. We are still equals and partners in life. But given our personalities, an S&M relationship is the best way to go about living together. If I didn't consider her my equal, I wouldn't care nearly as much about her. I wouldn't bother trying to help her grow and evolve. I wouldn't have her experience new things in life or meet new people. If I didn't consider her my equal, she would be nothing more then my play thing, and that is wrong to me.

Did you know that there is generally 3 different collars given to the submissive in an S&M relationship?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:33 am


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Bondage is a huge part of our relationship. I find it very special to have a woman trust me so much to let me bind her like that. It takes a huge amount of trust from both parties to be able to get to something like that. We didn't start doing that until around year three. But just because we do the S&M thing all the time doesn't mean we aren't equals. I don't expect her to do everything because I am the master. She does the cooking and cleaning because she is good at it. I manage the tech in the house, pull weeds, and do the driving because I am good at it. Just because she calls me master and obeys my commands doesn't make her any less equal to me. I know full well she is more intelligent then me. She is far more in touch with her emotions (of course I was also apathetic for a good several years). Looks are a matter of perception of course but I am a firm believer that women are better looking then men, she is no exception. And of course she has talents I do not. Due to her submissive personality, its my job to guide her in a way that her talents and skills are put to good use, and that she grows along side me as my partner. I know there are plenty of things she is better at then I, just as I have things I am better at then her. I acknowledge these abilities and remind her that she is well worth my love and adoration. She used to have a bit of a confidence issue and I have been working hard to get rid of that. I guess it's hard to explain. We are still equals and partners in life. But given our personalities, an S&M relationship is the best way to go about living together. If I didn't consider her my equal, I wouldn't care nearly as much about her. I wouldn't bother trying to help her grow and evolve. I wouldn't have her experience new things in life or meet new people. If I didn't consider her my equal, she would be nothing more then my play thing, and that is wrong to me.

Did you know that there is generally 3 different collars given to the submissive in an S&M relationship?


When you say S&M, do you mean slave and master? I'm just asking cause I always think sadist and masochist when I see those letters. lol I just wanted to clarify so that I know we're talking about the same thing. biggrin

I know that some people use temporary collars until a certain point, like you had said, when your wife earns your permanent one, I didn't know there were specifically 3 though.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:40 am


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Did you know that there is generally 3 different collars given to the submissive in an S&M relationship?

While some people in the BDSM community use that kind of system- it isn't universal and with the exception of formal training programs I don't know many people who actually use it.

It's about as common as "Taken in Hand" and Gor. *shrugs* Not that there's anything wrong with it- but I think when taking on a mentor role to someone just starting out- it's important to distinguish between what we do for preference, what is common and what is out there but doesn't fit into either of those groups.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:42 am


We dabble in both. Though I am training myself as much as I am training her in that area. I'm far too nice to take it far enough. I fear taking it too far and actually hurting her that progress has been slow, but steady.

According to my research, there is generally three collars. The first one me and my wife accidentally skipped. It's like a prospect collar. It signifies interest in both parties and is a training period for both while they see if it can work between them. After that is the training collar were it has been made official that both parties want this kind of relationship with the other. During that time the master trains the slave into what the master wants the slave to be. At the same time, the master trains himself to learn the slaves limits and only carefully push them to where the master wants. It's a delicate line between no progress and too harsh. And of course, after that comes the permanent collar. It signifies that both parties are where they want to be and the devotion the two have towards each other. The one I will get for my wife will be silver due to her allergies and irremovable without the use of bolt cutters. Most collars I have found simply screw shut. I am looking for one that cannot be removed after it is together, much like the love we share.

On a side note that I forgot to explain in my initial post. It is one of my goals to start a harem later in life.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:45 am


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LeonJLoire

Did you know that there is generally 3 different collars given to the submissive in an S&M relationship?

While some people in the BDSM community use that kind of system- it isn't universal and with the exception of formal training programs I don't know many people who actually use it.

It's about as common as "Taken in Hand" and Gor. *shrugs* Not that there's anything wrong with it- but I think when taking on a mentor role to someone just starting out- it's important to distinguish between what we do for preference, what is common and what is out there but doesn't fit into either of those groups.


Though I personally believe that experimentation is key to a successful relationship of any variety. There are a couple things that me and my wife wouldn't have tried years ago but actively do now. Keeping things new and fresh, coupled with surprises and gestures of kindness go a long way.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:53 am


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I know that some people use temporary collars until a certain point, like you had said, when your wife earns your permanent one, I didn't know there were specifically 3 though.
There aren't always. wink
Some people have more, some people have less. To some people a collar is like a wedding ring, to others it's like a fashion accessory- to still others, it's just a tie point. Really- the meaning in a collar is going to be a little different to everyone.

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Though I personally believe that experimentation is key to a successful relationship of any variety. There are a couple things that me and my wife wouldn't have tried years ago but actively do now. Keeping things new and fresh, coupled with surprises and gestures of kindness go a long way.

That largely depends on the person- some people don't like surprises and have hard limits for specific reasons- and if those hard limits are deal breakers for the D, accepting that and moving on is the best option- whatever "moving on" might look like.
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