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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:58 pm
General Sir, I've served under your Command tooth and Nail for a long time and I'd like to Command a new Brand of Soldiers called the Universal Soldier....(Yes it is a Movie mrgreen )
Anyway, Universal Soldier is basically Soldiers that died in Combat brought back to life and reanimated to become a Soldier again...Part Machine, Part Human.....Completely reliable and follows Orders to the letter......
Google the Movie Universal Soldier to understand it more everyone...I will be working on this program more Sir but first before I do that I need your permission first...
If so then I alone will take full responsibility of my Action's rendering you blameless......
General Clark
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:48 pm
Mhhm. WEll, to be honest, despite how corny they were, I loved those movies too. blaugh And John Vad Clad Damme? was pretty awesome in it as well. The issue with that concept is, we use humans to do the bulk of the work. While we still do that today, the universal soldiers were designed to take multiple wounds and not only survive, but to go unscathed, not to bleed, and to remain fighting without any negative effects to themselves. While that would be amazing, it's virtually impossible and, human beings are rather fragile. One nick to the head and bam we're dead. There's no coming back, no coming back to life, and no being alive again. As amazing as the concept is... Full grade body armor, like a Knight's Armor, or in Halo (either for the Masterchief, or even the ODST) allows a human being a far greater advantage than any kind of biological enhancement could provide. A human could, theoretically with those types of armor, walk into a hail of bullets, attack everyone with a mini-gun and 399 rounds of ammo, kill 399/400 people with a HUD aimed headshot, find the 400th guy, run over to him, fly through the air and land on him (possibly with some form of karate move involved) crush him, and walk away unscathed. Even if it was possible, the universal soldier concept would place too much stress on the soldier and, require them to do most of the work, rather than the machine. Making humans super strong is great, but a "super-suit" could easily make them stronger; making humans bullet resistant would be amazing, but a full thing of body armor is better. Another thing to consider is, that, the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and throat are all extremely vulnerable places. Even if your bone was made to be 10 times denser than iron, the cartilage in your nose, and the open fleshy parts of your body would be completely exposed, mitigating any effect. A single stray bullet could kill a person instantly. Not to mention that, even if it was possible to make the body able to accept massive tissue damage and loss, one knick to the head, I.E. one bullet to the head, would kill a person instantly as well. All the flaws of the universal soldier program could be corrected by a single face mask and a groin guard, which is why body armor is mainly the key type improvement a soldier can receive. That being said... Combing a universal soldier like concept with body armor would be amazing. A human being that, while augmented with robotics to be able to carry, say, 200 pounds, could still be able to carry much more without problems and, could potentially be more bullet resistant, even if they aren't hit by bullets (making all other physical injuries moot), and have all other kinds of physical enhancements. Something that would be cool is if the person's brain was hooked up to a computer, so they could make decisions on computers with their mind's instantly, and everything in combat could essentially be "Hand's off", that is if they wanted to talk to someone on the radio they could simply think of it, rather than having to press a button, or if they wanted to "zoom in" with a scope, they could just think of it, or if they wanted to wanted to send a message using only their brain (I.E. synthetic Telepathy!) they could. Not to mention that they could have a gps + satellite and be able to like, have a lay out of all the land, and could find everything and "click" on stuff without having to use their hands, as well as potentially fire their gun without touching it, move around information on their HUD, etc. they could even have an intuitive grasp with like, radar or sonar or something, so they could "feel" the enemy coming, or could "feel" where their teamates are and stuff. Not to mention that, with a supersuit controlled by your brain, you could do all sorts of fancy maneuvers that would otherwise be difficult to get your body to do, on it's own. Yes, you would need to do both, but, it would be pretty awesome to just think of something and then be able to do it. Not to mention that, you could potentially control turret guns, so like machine guns, and have a robotic sniper that you control with your mind, and have a predator drone that you control with your mind, to come fly over and do stuff, that rather than having to press a button to control, you would control with your mind. Plus, multi-tasking would be easier, so you could potentially control like, a mortar, a sniper, and a predator drone to attack the enemy simultaneously, while shooting them with a gun, and be able to control multiple types of attacks, along with tell your teamates what to do just by thinking. Plus, everyone would see what their teamates saw; yes, it would be relatively hard to "clutter" up your screen to be able to see what their doing, but with your brain hooked up to a computer you would just intuitively know, making things incalculably easier. This is a good link for lots of other stuff.
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:38 pm
I See.....How much of our Funds and workers would it cost to make a team of 4 to 7 Sir? And I realize how much of a pain it will be......I'd like the opportunity to try this experiment.....
(On another note.....They are making another one now I think....How are the The movies? I've only seen the First one and I can't find any of them on YouTube.....)
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:12 pm
Well, if we were going to make such a project, we would have to specifically outline all the criteria and procedures our operatives would undergo. We would use living individuals, not dead ones, and we would have to figure out real life ways in which this idea could possibly work. Secondly, we would have to outline specific criteria that the program was intended to achieve, such as increased strength, speed, endurance, etc. Thirdly, we would have to decide whether or not technology would be integrated into this and, what the focus of the program is. Obviously, if the program is to achieve a specific objective, but we find an alternative way of achieving this (such as using a powered exo-skeleton to increase a person's strength), the question would be, is the program a success of a failure? Is the program simply designed to create a means to an end, or is there a specific ends that essentially is the mean? This type of program is heavily dependent on the type of criteria that encompasses it. Obviously, like all improvements for soldiers, the benefits we are always looking for are- Improving the lethality of an individual soldier Increasing the survivability of a soldier Providing full command, communications, and control to a soldier
Another issue is that, we are going to have to outline specific criteria. Are there certain cost requirements, are there certain procedural guidelines, and what specifically are we going to try to do to increase the above three? Improved vision, improved hearing, improved pain tolerance, improved strength, improved speed etc. What are we trying to achieve and why? There always has to be a mission statement.
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:25 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 Well, if we were going to make such a project, we would have to specifically outline all the criteria and procedures our operatives would undergo. We would use living individuals, not dead ones, and we would have to figure out real life ways in which this idea could possibly work. Secondly, we would have to outline specific criteria that the program was intended to achieve, such as increased strength, speed, endurance, etc. Thirdly, we would have to decide whether or not technology would be integrated into this and, what the focus of the program is. Obviously, if the program is to achieve a specific objective, but we find an alternative way of achieving this (such as using a powered exo-skeleton to increase a person's strength), the question would be, is the program a success of a failure? Is the program simply designed to create a means to an end, or is there a specific ends that essentially is the mean? This type of program is heavily dependent on the type of criteria that encompasses it. Obviously, like all improvements for soldiers, the benefits we are always looking for are- Improving the lethality of an individual soldier Increasing the survivability of a soldier Providing full command, communications, and control to a soldier
Another issue is that, we are going to have to outline specific criteria. Are there certain cost requirements, are there certain procedural guidelines, and what specifically are we going to try to do to increase the above three? Improved vision, improved hearing, improved pain tolerance, improved strength, improved speed etc. What are we trying to achieve and why? There always has to be a mission statement. I agree using Live Active Soldiers Sir......I just think that we can enhance our Soldiers Abilites and Senses 10 times greater than what they are.....If we do this than we might be able to increase the chances of more troops surving....
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:48 pm
General Clark Suicidesoldier#1 Well, if we were going to make such a project, we would have to specifically outline all the criteria and procedures our operatives would undergo. We would use living individuals, not dead ones, and we would have to figure out real life ways in which this idea could possibly work. Secondly, we would have to outline specific criteria that the program was intended to achieve, such as increased strength, speed, endurance, etc. Thirdly, we would have to decide whether or not technology would be integrated into this and, what the focus of the program is. Obviously, if the program is to achieve a specific objective, but we find an alternative way of achieving this (such as using a powered exo-skeleton to increase a person's strength), the question would be, is the program a success of a failure? Is the program simply designed to create a means to an end, or is there a specific ends that essentially is the mean? This type of program is heavily dependent on the type of criteria that encompasses it. Obviously, like all improvements for soldiers, the benefits we are always looking for are- Improving the lethality of an individual soldier Increasing the survivability of a soldier Providing full command, communications, and control to a soldier
Another issue is that, we are going to have to outline specific criteria. Are there certain cost requirements, are there certain procedural guidelines, and what specifically are we going to try to do to increase the above three? Improved vision, improved hearing, improved pain tolerance, improved strength, improved speed etc. What are we trying to achieve and why? There always has to be a mission statement. I agree using Live Active Soldiers Sir......I just think that we can enhance our Soldiers Abilites and Senses 10 times greater than what they are.....If we do this than we might be able to increase the chances of more troops surving.... Kay man, and how do you propose we go about doing this?
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:27 pm
Sir, I suggest we take at least 4 troops that will Volunteer for this Experiment and start procedures................
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:44 am
Kay... I mean, I would do it and all, and be a volunteer but, I'm not entirely sure what the procedure is.
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:45 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 Kay... I mean, I would do it and all, and be a volunteer but, I'm not entirely sure what the procedure is. I'll be researching the Procedures....But relentless the procedures will be painful but it will be worh it.........Here's an dea of what will happen Sir.... First off the Uniform is what I have on now.... Second....Each Volunteer will have a Tracking Beacon in them so if we lose Communication with them or if they go M.I.A. or A.W.O.L then we can Locate & find them........ Before each Mission our Universal Soldiers will have an Injection of Muscle Enhancers into them and will have the Latest Technology on them such as Portable Motion Sensors that will be Inserted into your skin so we'll know where your weak and strong points are when your out into Battle..... You Control your mind though......Your just the same except your much more stronger and all your Senses and everything about you will be 10 Times greater than before the Procedures started.......
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:51 pm
Before the procedures begin you'll be put to sleep and also for Communication you'll have a tiny microphone inserted near your brain so you'll have endless Communication wether or not you have your Equiptment on you.....Telepathic Communication.....No one will feel a thing........
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:26 pm
This would be the Roster Sir....Each team member would have 2 Jobs.
A 5 Man Team Sir....
Team Roster
Team Leader/ (Empty Slot - Choice of Operative):
Medic/Radio Man:
Assaut/Grenadier:
Support Gunner/Ammo:
Sniper/Reconassiance:
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:14 pm
So whatta ya say Sir? should we try it or what? I'm willing to take the risk.....
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:40 pm
Herm...
More like...
Team Roster
Team Leader Rifleman Grenadier Automatic Rifleman/Assault Marksmen
with a...
Radio Medic Scout Demolitions
spread out there somewhere.
The team lead is essentially a rifleman, although they can use any weapon they want. But, they, along with the rifleman, are expected to carry around an underbarrel grenade launcher. The grenaider is expected to carry an XM25.
Of course, this is just one fire team; it would probably be more effective as a squad.
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:06 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 Herm... More like... Team Roster Team Leader Rifleman Grenadier Automatic Rifleman/Assault Marksmen with a... Radio Medic Scout Demolitions spread out there somewhere. The team lead is essentially a rifleman, although they can use any weapon they want. But, they, along with the rifleman, are expected to carry around an underbarrel grenade launcher. The grenaider is expected to carry an XM25. Of course, this is just one fire team; it would probably be more effective as a squad. Sounds good...So is this a yes Sir?
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