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 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:58 pm
So I have recently been teaching myself how to use Corel Painter 4 since I just bought a Bamboo Pen Regardles, I can't figure out how to make my line work nice and crisp. It is hard to draw a straight line or perfect circles by hand. So I figured there must be some sort of tool I missing or something. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also it Corel Painter isn't good for this, then I have GIMP 2 also. Anyways, I will post a couple of the pieces I have done in it so you can get an example of what I mean  See how everything comes out really sketchy? How do I clean it up?
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:59 pm
Though I know this isn't what you were asking, but lay off all of the folds/wrinkles in the clothing. That will honestly help A LOT for your over all aesthetic.
Beyond that? All I can suggest is practice, practice, practice.
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:00 pm
If you have photoshop, a good way to get clean crisp lines is to use the pen tool.
Or you can draw in high resolution and maybe 300-600dpi while saving them in .png. Hope that helps :]!
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:27 pm
RainsOpacity Though I know this isn't what you were asking, but lay off all of the folds/wrinkles in the clothing. That will honestly help A LOT for your over all aesthetic. Beyond that? All I can suggest is practice, practice, practice. The excessive folds is a new style I am trying out. Artist Alex Pardee is a big influence on me lately.
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:03 pm
hmm I've never really used corel in depth before... but there should be a vector tool that allows you to make very crips lines.... if not that what you could do is work on a really big format, maybe 2-3 times the size of your normal drawings... draw out your forms and then once your done rescale it down to a normal size... this might help make your lines more crisp as well.
Make sure your pencils properties in corel are a solid colour with no degradation as well : )
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:05 pm
Corel doesn't have this feature I don't think, but some drawing programs like SAI incorporate a stabilizer than you can adjust to help with drawing a smooth, crisp line. But a big part of it is going to have to come with time. There are some quick fixes, but I would suggest learning the skill over using a feature in a program like a vector or pen tool to do it for you, with the exception of drawing straight lines and circles of course. I've never been able to manipulatea vector or pen tool in way that got me the same asthetic appeal I get when I free hand.
Also I agree with the others. Working at a higher resolution gives you the ability to put finer details into your work, as well as creating the illusion of a perfectly smooth line.
There's one more thing I can suggest mainly becauseit helps witht he overall outcome of an image, and you may already be doing this, but sketching out what you plan to draw first without focussing on small details, and insteadfocussing on the look and feel of the entire image as a whole can help you to avoid spending too much time on one small part only to have it be slightly off later, and have to go back and fix it, or completely re-adjust whatever you're doing. You can then draw the lineart over the sketch, which will not only shorten the process since it's almost akin to tracing in a way, but it makes it much easier to focus on smaller details when you know how you want the entire thing to look in the end. You would sketch, and line on seperate layers of course. I even do this when I draw on paper, and just erase things as I line.
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:00 am
Kai_Chi hmm I've never really used corel in depth before... but there should be a vector tool that allows you to make very crips lines.... if not that what you could do is work on a really big format, maybe 2-3 times the size of your normal drawings... draw out your forms and then once your done rescale it down to a normal size... this might help make your lines more crisp as well. Make sure your pencils properties in corel are a solid colour with no degradation as well : ) Does GIMP have a vector tool? Nuna Corel doesn't have this feature I don't think, but some drawing programs like SAI incorporate a stabilizer than you can adjust to help with drawing a smooth, crisp line. But a big part of it is going to have to come with time. There are some quick fixes, but I would suggest learning the skill over using a feature in a program like a vector or pen tool to do it for you, with the exception of drawing straight lines and circles of course. I've never been able to manipulatea vector or pen tool in way that got me the same asthetic appeal I get when I free hand. Also I agree with the others. Working at a higher resolution gives you the ability to put finer details into your work, as well as creating the illusion of a perfectly smooth line. There's one more thing I can suggest mainly becauseit helps witht he overall outcome of an image, and you may already be doing this, but sketching out what you plan to draw first without focussing on small details, and insteadfocussing on the look and feel of the entire image as a whole can help you to avoid spending too much time on one small part only to have it be slightly off later, and have to go back and fix it, or completely re-adjust whatever you're doing. You can then draw the lineart over the sketch, which will not only shorten the process since it's almost akin to tracing in a way, but it makes it much easier to focus on smaller details when you know how you want the entire thing to look in the end. You would sketch, and line on seperate layers of course. I even do this when I draw on paper, and just erase things as I line. Thank you, that is a lot of help. I might try scanning hand drawn line work in then just coloring with corel and see how that turns out
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:04 am
I havent tried it out but all my friends tell me to dravv the image large, like at 500% the actual size, and then reduce the size after the lines or even the colors are done.
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:43 am
Oh geez I just obtained one of those too! I've been trying to learn all the features by just playing with it. So if you do figure something out, let me know!
Love your art btw!
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:22 am
Ramen-Lass Oh geez I just obtained one of those too! I've been trying to learn all the features by just playing with it. So if you do figure something out, let me know! Love your art btw! If I figure it out I will let you know Koichi I havent tried it out but all my friends tell me to dravv the image large, like at 500% the actual size, and then reduce the size after the lines or even the colors are done. I gotta give this a shot too
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:02 pm
 Corel isn't good for line art, in my opinion of course. I use something like gimp for that. It looks alot smoother to me, but I use Corel to color cause it's fun.
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:47 pm
@ Damien Plethora: sorry I have no idea, I've never used gimp
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