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Ronin Ranko

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:32 pm


The curch says so.. but I disagree I mean whats so wroung with it?
This video explains a lot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMjXucTFaM
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:51 pm


I am a sinner... "1 John 1:8"


God created Adam and Eve... Man and Woman. Marriage is a sanctified union between 1 man and 1 woman.

They say "you can't help who you fall in love with" and "I was born this way" and I say that is true to both them but guess what, EVERY human being was born into sin and homosexuality is sin. It is lust for another person. You don't have to "love" someone with your body. You can love people and not sleep with them. The act of gay sex is the sin, the lustful thoughts of gay sex is a sin just like any other for of lust. Being gay isn't a mega sin worse than any other sin. It's just a sin and that makes it wrong.

We are called to live pure and blameless in the eyes of the Lord and that means denying our sinful human nature. If God said it is said in the Bible more than once that "for this reason a man shall leave his mother and father and shall be joined with his wife." It's not the just the "church" that says it's wrong. It's the bible itself that says its wrong and the bible is the word of God.

Anyone, with the help of Christ, can deny their sinful nature and grow in their walk with the Lord to sin as little as possible. Which means that even a gay, lesbian, or bisexual person can deny their lust for actions and become followers of God. that doesn't mean you have to go out and get a straight boyfriend or girlfriend, you don't have to be in a relationship with a person to be loved or receive love, it just simply means to follow God's will. God will be there for us no matter what, people come and go, things come and go but God is there for ever and he will never leave. If you need help working past your issues no matter what they are God will be there for you to help you work things out.


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Ronin Ranko

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:19 pm


I'm not a gay if thats what your thinking.And if they love eachother cant they get married? When they are married its a loving bond for life, even if they cant have sex.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:05 am


Just like eugenics state there is a difference in race and we need to control it... This is not a truth for science it is not fact based how many straights did they study? Plus it's not a controlled enviroment they're studying. Now when they come to us with a study of children snatched at birth and raised identically at great numbers. Then perhaps they may have some real science. Twins being both gay? Sounds almost like they were raised the same correct?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:42 am


werdofilms
I'm not a gay if thats what your thinking.And if they love eachother cant they get married? When they are married its a loving bond for life, even if they cant have sex.
I am a sinner... "1 John 1:8"


I wasn't thinking that, it was just how I worded myself best.

Marriage is not for a man and man, nor woman and woman. Marriage is a holy union sanctified by God to be between 1 man and 1 woman. You don't have to be married to love someone, but for some it is part of God's holy plan.

Marriage is for the man and woman to be together and to also bring new life into this world. 2 men by themselves cannot create new life, neither 2 women themselves cannot create new life.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:20 am


faithful quenga
werdofilms
I'm not a gay if thats what your thinking.And if they love eachother cant they get married? When they are married its a loving bond for life, even if they cant have sex.
I am a sinner... "1 John 1:8"


I wasn't thinking that, it was just how I worded myself best.

Marriage is not for a man and man, nor woman and woman. Marriage is a holy union sanctified by God to be between 1 man and 1 woman. You don't have to be married to love someone, but for some it is part of God's holy plan.

Marriage is for the man and woman to be together and to also bring new life into this world. 2 men by themselves cannot create new life, neither 2 women themselves cannot create new life.


... Saved by God's grace "Acts 15:11"
We're called to love everyone. I really think the word "Love" in said case is misconstrued for passion...

Azkeel


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:01 am


It is easy to understand. We stand on the Word of God, period.

Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Genesis 2 - But for Adam no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.” 24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

The word clearly says woman was made for a man and a man is to be with a woman. That ends the discussion for all Christians. There is no real point of trying to argue about it. All Christians will fall on the Word for the answer and the Word is clear how God intended men and women to be. The rest is a sin.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:01 am


Azkeel
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werdofilms
I'm not a gay if thats what your thinking.And if they love eachother cant they get married? When they are married its a loving bond for life, even if they cant have sex.
I am a sinner... "1 John 1:8"


I wasn't thinking that, it was just how I worded myself best.

Marriage is not for a man and man, nor woman and woman. Marriage is a holy union sanctified by God to be between 1 man and 1 woman. You don't have to be married to love someone, but for some it is part of God's holy plan.

Marriage is for the man and woman to be together and to also bring new life into this world. 2 men by themselves cannot create new life, neither 2 women themselves cannot create new life.


... Saved by God's grace "Acts 15:11"
We're called to love everyone. I really think the word "Love" in said case is misconstrued for passion...
I am a sinner... "1 John 1:8"


thank you for you help. I know we are to love everyone. I couldn't remember the word "passion" so I tried to word it as best I could.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:08 pm


god made everyone the way they were meant to be. he loves everyone. its not wrong.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:30 pm


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god made everyone the way they were meant to be. he loves everyone. its not wrong.

Thats what I think,

Ronin Ranko

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Azkeel

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:45 pm


Who said anything about hating them?

Just because libral doctrine is now preaching acceptance rather then tollerance doesn't mean we have to conform and contradict our own doctrine to please the world.

If you actually research the librals preacious genetics which tries to state they are born that way. Well genetics is quite possibly the most horrible science. Research eugenics, there is a reason they are pushing for people to conform to their gay feelings. It's called de-population. Seems it just got a little more evil about libral doctrine. Essentially saying you're born gay means if you get a feeling like that you must have to be gay and you're only "Lying" to yourself if you don't conform to that feeling. If sexual preference is determined genetically then non-aggressive ***** need to freed and the age of consent lowered. Same thing with those whom prefer beastiality.

So what is being gay anyways? (I'll speak of males) They are incapable of loving females? What would prevent them from having a wife? Oh it's a matter of attraction? So essentially what you're telling me is that the only thing about being gay is just sex drive? Why do they HAVE to have sex and physical relations? I'm straight and I don't need to be having sex I can control myself. So since I full heartedly belive we are equal's and both fall short of the glory of God if I can go without sex and physical relations so can they. Being gay is just about the physical side of things. I'll be amazed when a homosexual comes out of the closet say's I'm gay but Christian first; don't worry I don't act out my attractions to the same sex.

LOVE is NOT physical!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:02 am


You christians sicken me... Sex isn't only for a Female and a Male. Sex isn't just for Making new life. I find it a very romantic way of expressing ones love for another. If god said a Man and another man can not sleep together, then why would he make it so it felt so good? It has been PROVEN that being Gay, Lesbian Etc... is in your DNA. So it is a part of you. You can't change who you are. So ******** you the one who writes in pink because it ISN'T a choice. If god Says that two men or two Females can't sleep together, then to hell with god.

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Azkeel

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:13 am


x Zero Force x
You christians sicken me... Sex isn't only for a Female and a Male. Sex isn't just for Making new life. I find it a very romantic way of expressing ones love for another. If god said a Man and another man can not sleep together, then why would he make it so it felt so good? It has been PROVEN that being Gay, Lesbian Etc... is in your DNA. So it is a part of you. You can't change who you are. So ******** you the one who writes in pink because it ISN'T a choice. If god Says that two men or two Females can't sleep together, then to hell with god.
It's not proven that is a lie. Why do librals need to discredit real science by making false claims so easily? You do realize how science works right? You would need a controlled enviroment, thousands of subjects from birth. Are scientest's kidnapping children at birth and studying their genes and sexual orientation? Are all these children raised the same with the exact same controls? If not your version of science is flawed and thus I will not respect it as a science but rather propaganda. How can you make a claim science has "Proven" this when you don't even know how science works. This is why I love REAL science; it discredits other studies such as the rascist, segregating, all around horrible eugenics studies which stemed from evolution theorists. Thank God those idiots thought their genes could be pure by inbreeding haha jokes on them.

If it is in the DNA then you will be able to show me what gene it is. Or are you just speculating on hersay? Trying to say that human sexuality is not up to the person and is controlled by genetics; stating it is a FACT they can't control it really takes away from the human condition and turns people into slaves to DNA. Do you really want to be cut off from reproducing if you have a genetic defect such as the "heart disease gene". Research eugenics then come back to me and tell me who is the true beast.

You've met your worse enemy. A Christian whom understands and loves science. A Christian with a logical mind that doesn't take things from an emotional standpoint. A Christan that used to be an atheist!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:41 am


x Zero Force x
You christians sicken me... Sex isn't only for a Female and a Male. Sex isn't just for Making new life. I find it a very romantic way of expressing ones love for another. If god said a Man and another man can not sleep together, then why would he make it so it felt so good? It has been PROVEN that being Gay, Lesbian Etc... is in your DNA. So it is a part of you. You can't change who you are. So ******** you the one who writes in pink because it ISN'T a choice. If god Says that two men or two Females can't sleep together, then to hell with god.
I am a sinner... "1 John 1:8"


Just because something feels good it has to be right? That is seriously twisted thinking. So the person who "feels good" when watching child pornography is right because it feels so good it has to be natural? The person who "feels good" from murdering someone is right because in their own sickness it feels good? You are proving to me that being gay is driven on a lustful attraction rather than a REAL love basis by saying what you said.

And if it's so proven that being gay is in your DNA, then please, show me proof.

Love does not equal having sex with your partner. I'm married and still don't need sex to prove I love my husband nor do I need sex to show him "in a romantic way" that I love him. romance does not equal sex with your partner. If you truly love someone, you won't need sex or any other physical relation to define it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:11 pm


Well Say whatever you want. Think it too. You're only lying to yourself. No 'God' Is going to change anyone. What loving god sends people to burn in hell anyway? What about ' God loves all '? A loving god would NEVER send anyone to hell no matter what their sins. So two fingers up to Jesus >.>
And it feels good when a Man and female have sex too. Does that mean i'm saying it doesn't mean there's real love? b***h.
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