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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:43 pm
Should we legalize and recognize gay marriage in all 50 states?
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:32 pm
Yes. They dont tell us how to live our lives, why should we tell them how to live they're lives.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:41 pm
Now, I'm libertarian on some issues, but gay marriage is not one of them. Why should we let one group change the rules of society? If we allow gay marriage, will churches who refuse to perform a gay marriage be protected from lawsuits? Plus if you're going to allow gay people to marry, why not let a brother and sister get married or a man and three women get married or a thirty year old and a twelve year old get married? In states where gays can get married, schools teach about the gay lifestyle to their students starting as young as preschool. In those states, parents aren't allowed to opt-out their children. This is a violation of parental rights. Teaching children about social issues is the parents' job, not some teachers' union. A teacher's only purpose is to teach kids how to read, do math, and encourage them to do their best. For the record, the gay marriage movement and the civil rights movement are not comparible. Unlike blacks during the civil rights movement, gays are not segregated. There aren't straight drinking fountains and gay drinking fountains or straight theaters and gay theaters or straight school and gay school and gays aren't forced to sit in the back of buses. Gays have never been slaves. They've never been taken from their land, forced into the cargo of ships, and turned into slaves. I have no problem with civil unions. Once a gay couple enters a civil union, they have all the benefits of a married couple. But to change the definition of marriage that people have agreed on for decades is just drastic. In summary, it's not an equality issue. It's one group trying to shove an agenda down our throats. That's my story!
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:23 pm
realy? the state starts to define marriage to fit their own views because they dont want a certain group to have the same right to marriage and you say the minority asking to be treated the same is pushing their veiws down our throats?
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:31 pm
This is the one topic where I just cannot decide where to place my stance. I disagree with telling two consenting adults that they cannot marry each other but I don't want to force the churches to have to do something they disagree with.
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:04 pm
you dont have to be married at a church to legaly get married
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:05 pm
James628 realy? the state starts to define marriage to fit their own views because they don't want a certain group to have the same right to marriage and you say the minority asking to be treated the same is pushing their views down our throats? It's not the state. It's the people. Gay marriage has been proposed on the ballot in California (see Prop cool , Maine, New Jersey, etc, and each time the people have voted against gay marriage. Gay marriage has failed in California, the bluest state in America, not once but twice! During the Gubernational races last year, a gay marriage in Maine, another really blue state, failed. Gay people in America are treated pretty good compared to countries like Venezula, Palestine, and others. Gays are beheaded in Venezuala. In Muslim countries, oh my goodness. It's a living hell for gays. At least here in America they're not executed by firing squad or God knows what. Besides, what's wrong with civil unions? A gay couple in a civil union get the same benefits as a married couple. A civil union is just as good as a marriage.
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:41 pm
James628 you dont have to be married at a church to legaly get married yes, but there are people who don't want to get married without being in a church.
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:44 pm
Rosary16 James628 realy? the state starts to define marriage to fit their own views because they don't want a certain group to have the same right to marriage and you say the minority asking to be treated the same is pushing their views down our throats? It's not the state. It's the people. Gay marriage has been proposed on the ballot in California (see Prop cool , Maine, New Jersey, etc, and each time the people have voted against gay marriage. Gay marriage has failed in California, the bluest state in America, not once but twice! During the Gubernational races last year, a gay marriage in Maine, another really blue state, failed. Gay people in America are treated pretty good compared to countries like Venezula, Palestine, and others. Gays are beheaded in Venezuala. In Muslim countries, oh my goodness. It's a living hell for gays. At least here in America they're not executed by firing squad or God knows what. Besides, what's wrong with civil unions? A gay couple in a civil union get the same benefits as a married couple. A civil union is just as good as a marriage. I just have to say what gets me about the California thing. They voted against Prop 8 but for Obama. It's like you don't want to be liberal in one thing and move forward but they wanted Obama.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:36 pm
celticfireguardian Rosary16 James628 realy? the state starts to define marriage to fit their own views because they don't want a certain group to have the same right to marriage and you say the minority asking to be treated the same is pushing their views down our throats? It's not the state. It's the people. Gay marriage has been proposed on the ballot in California (see Prop cool , Maine, New Jersey, etc, and each time the people have voted against gay marriage. Gay marriage has failed in California, the bluest state in America, not once but twice! During the Gubernational races last year, a gay marriage in Maine, another really blue state, failed. Gay people in America are treated pretty good compared to countries like Venezula, Palestine, and others. Gays are beheaded in Venezuala. In Muslim countries, oh my goodness. It's a living hell for gays. At least here in America they're not executed by firing squad or God knows what. Besides, what's wrong with civil unions? A gay couple in a civil union get the same benefits as a married couple. A civil union is just as good as a marriage. I just have to say what gets me about the California thing. They voted against Prop 8 but for Obama. It's like you don't want to be liberal in one thing and move forward but they wanted Obama. It's a little something called, "Do as I say, not as I do." Californians voted yes on Prop 8, then do an about-face and vote for Obama. Funny how that works, huh?
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:45 am
No. Why should anyone be allowed to discriminate against someone's religion? It's God's word that gay people aren't allowed to be married. (...and contrary to what everyone will try and have you believe, it's not hatred. God doesn't discriminate, he loves us all. ) I understand that because when two people are married they become one. The main reason for marriage is the family unit. Which means, a MAN AND A WOMAN, because that is how humans reproduce. Most gay people act like they're a separate "race" or something. If they really wanted to be treated equal they wouldn't be all out there and pushy with it. You don't see straight people running around shouting about their straightness from the rooftops. xd Have some self respect and quit acting so damn tacky. ...and guess what, this is coming from someone who is technically gay herself. But I don't go around preaching about it and demanding "respect" from people who don't owe me anything.
Why can't people just accept the common law if they're so damn determined to get married? Same benefits as marriage, only you aren't shoving anything down anyone's throats.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:42 pm
Marriage is a religious ordinance. The Constitution does not provide for marriage or protect marriage, even for heterosexual couples. It gives "full faith and credit" to marriage licenses, but it does not ensure marriage. Gay marriage is neither a federal nor state issue. Really, because marriage is not a right, it's not even an issue. Gays have all the same rights as heterosexuals. I should say this as well: saying that the government has no right to dictate who you marry opens doors for ***** to marry children, people to marry animals, etc. Once again, marriage is not a right. You do not have the right to marry whomever you please. Period. So, I don't see why gay marriage is brought up as an equal rights issue. Civil unions are fine. I don't have a problem with that. But, marriage is a different issue because it is not a right. Oh, and just so everyone is clear on this, MARRIAGE IS NOT A RIGHT!
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:05 am
Rosary16 Now, I'm libertarian on some issues, but gay marriage is not one of them. Why should we let one group change the rules of society? If we allow gay marriage, will churches who refuse to perform a gay marriage be protected from lawsuits? Plus if you're going to allow gay people to marry, why not let a brother and sister get married or a man and three women get married or a thirty year old and a twelve year old get married? In states where gays can get married, schools teach about the gay lifestyle to their students starting as young as preschool. In those states, parents aren't allowed to opt-out their children. This is a violation of parental rights. Teaching children about social issues is the parents' job, not some teachers' union. A teacher's only purpose is to teach kids how to read, do math, and encourage them to do their best. For the record, the gay marriage movement and the civil rights movement are not comparible. Unlike blacks during the civil rights movement, gays are not segregated. There aren't straight drinking fountains and gay drinking fountains or straight theaters and gay theaters or straight school and gay school and gays aren't forced to sit in the back of buses. Gays have never been slaves. They've never been taken from their land, forced into the cargo of ships, and turned into slaves. I have no problem with civil unions. Once a gay couple enters a civil union, they have all the benefits of a married couple. But to change the definition of marriage that people have agreed on for decades is just drastic. In summary, it's not an equality issue. It's one group trying to shove an agenda down our throats. That's my story! Did you hear about that photographer who refused to take pictures of a gay couple because it was against her religion and the gay couple sued her (and won)? That forever sealed the deal for me--no legalizing gay marriage until all homosexuals can learn to respect other people's beliefs and religions. talk2hand Oirish No. Why should anyone be allowed to discriminate against someone's religion? It's God's word that gay people aren't allowed to be married. (...and contrary to what everyone will try and have you believe, it's not hatred. God doesn't discriminate, he loves us all. ) I understand that because when two people are married they become one. The main reason for marriage is the family unit. Which means, a MAN AND A WOMAN, because that is how humans reproduce. Most gay people act like they're a separate "race" or something. If they really wanted to be treated equal they wouldn't be all out there and pushy with it. You don't see straight people running around shouting about their straightness from the rooftops. xd Have some self respect and quit acting so damn tacky. ...and guess what, this is coming from someone who is technically gay herself. But I don't go around preaching about it and demanding "respect" from people who don't owe me anything. Why can't people just accept the common law if they're so damn determined to get married? Same benefits as marriage, only you aren't shoving anything down anyone's throats. If I was a straight guy or a bi/homosexual girl, I think I would've just fallen in love with you. xd I'm an asexual girl. Now, we aces are the real minority. XDDDD
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:20 am
i really don't see any reason for it not to be if someone can be like love is love to someone one that 50 years and has sex with a child that is 13. why is it so bad for some one of the same sex of, or over the age the marry.
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