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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:02 pm
I am not dating anyone right now, but I am with my ex nearly 24/7. I have never told him I am poly amorous (not that he would understand it, anyway...) and we have been fighting a lot... not just recently, either. He expects me to be monogamous for him, not erm, "play with myself" or fantasize/check out others... He's trying to keep me from my human nature! What's his business if I wanna daydream about the cute guy at FYE that looks like a cuter version of Chris Kattan? What's his goal here, to drive me mental with impossible expectations so I finally break down and am monogamous for him? Hell, he isn't just my ex, he's my EX-FIANCEE. I can't do commitment, not yet. I'm only 18, and have not yet experienced enough in my life. How can I explain this? I can't! I know what he'll say. He won't understand that polygamy isn't about the sex, but the love. He'll think I just want to slut around and sleep with all of his friends. I'm not myself anymore. I'm stuck.
Does anyone know ANYTHING I can do? I'd like to date without him knowing, but i'm with him all the time, he'd know what's up the first day that I don't call at 1.30, or he'll flip out when he can't reach me after 15 minutes. He'll call the cops and 911, telling them he can't get a hold of me, that maybe i've been kidnapped. Oh god, I just want a normal life!
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:18 pm
First of all if he waits fifteen minutes and then calls the police, they will probably laugh at him. Trust me, they don't go into missing persons cases for someone who has been missing for so short a time (unless you say, saw the person being kidnapped or something). My mom tried to pull that on my brother when I was younger when he turned 18, they said they couldn't do anything about it.
He seems very controlling for every aspect of your life. But the question is... if he is your ex why do you still call and check in? If he is your ex why do you care what he thinks about what you do?
Talk to him, tell him honestly what your feelings are and tell him to stop being so controlling over your life. It's *your* life, you do with it what you want to. If you want to date, go ahead and date. It doesn't matter if he knows or not because he is your ex and has absolutely no claim on you.
This is full of all sorts of red flags, controlling and posessive behaviour, especially concerning you playing with yourself.
Honestly, were I you, I would distance myself from this guy as much as possible because he seems like seriously bad news in my mind.
Though as a smaaaall side note: There's nothing wrong with slutting around either, as long as you are ethical and responsible about it as well. It's called being an ethical slut
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:19 pm
Don't worry about responding to this post, this is just a little bit of getting-my-head-together time. I can't write it anywhere IRL or people will find it.
Wants Love Friendship Money Clothing Video Games Shoes Coffee Computer
Needs Love Caring Support Food Water Roof over my head Bed to sleep in
What I have = bolded What I don't = italics
I have the bare essentials in a materialistic view But my soul is empty
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:21 pm
alright, what part of EX isn't he getting? I say get away from him and leave it at that.
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:22 pm
Control Freak Anna Don't worry about responding to this post, this is just a little bit of getting-my-head-together time. I can't write it anywhere IRL or people will find it. WantsLove Friendship MoneyClothing Video Games Shoes Coffee ComputerNeedsLove Caring SupportFood Water Roof over my head Bed to sleep inWhat I have = boldedWhat I don't = italicsI have the bare essentials in a materialistic view But my soul is empty well hopefully here you will find Friendship and Caring, at the very least
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:30 pm
[Response to "Mameoyashi"]
First of all if he waits fifteen minutes and then calls the police, they will probably laugh at him. Trust me, they don't go into missing persons cases for someone who has been missing for so short a time (unless you say, saw the person being kidnapped or something). My mom tried to pull that on my brother when I was younger when he turned 18, they said they couldn't do anything about it. Well, that may be a slight exaggeration... But only slight, lol...
He seems very controlling for every aspect of your life. But the question is... if he is your ex why do you still call and check in? If he is your ex why do you care what he thinks about what you do? Because I still love him. Regardless of the fact that I don't wish to be married yet, I do still care and want to be with him forever. I'm just not ready for forever yet. I wasn't planning on getting married until 30 or 35, although my first baby was planned for 23-26. May be earlier because I relized how very much I want a child, but i'm not yet ready to tare care of it... Oops! Off topic!
I don't want him to hate me. I need the little support he gives me, as he is the only one giving it.
Talk to him, tell him honestly what your feelings are and tell him to stop being so controlling over your life. It's *your* life, you do with it what you want to. If you want to date, go ahead and date. It doesn't matter if he knows or not because he is your ex and has absolutely no claim on you. Okay see, he and I have had this discussion many times, and because of that he's getting better. If I force the issue, I will exacerbate it. He's attempting to get a handle on his controlling behavior, but he is having a very difficult time. In the future he may be able to be more, er, normal... But right now, it's extremely frustrating... Especially because i'm the more "dominant" tyoe and truly despise being controlled.
This is full of all sorts of red flags, controlling and posessive behaviour, especially concerning you playing with yourself. He weirds me out on that topic. One day, he's telling me how "hot" it is that I play with myself, the next day he's saying it's horrible, and he feels awful, unable to satisfy, threatens to stop having sex with me... Even though he knows that as two mature adults (sorta) with young, healthy bodies (very much so) we crave and desire sex and the resultant endorphins. We're physically and chemically attracted to each other, and after a year and a half of sex without condoms, i'm still not pregnant, we're both STD-free, etc. It makes more sense to have sex with each other and stay safe then to go slutting around randomly.
Honestly, were I you, I would distance myself from this guy as much as possible because he seems like seriously bad news in my mind. Everyone says that and has been saying that for over a year, to be honest =/ He lives a block and a half away, and without him I am pretty much broke, have no cigarettes, no weed, no gas money, no video game money, etc. He has a tight grip on me, I let it happen, I don't mind being provided for... Just don't like having my whole life covered, I wanna do stuff too.
Though as a smaaaall side note: There's nothing wrong with slutting around either, as long as you are ethical and responsible about it as well. It's called being an ethical slut Yeah, but in a town this small, everyone hears about it xD People already knew me as a slut because when I had my slave (AKA boyfriend, but everyone knew he was my b***h, I would bring him to school in drag and on dog leashes and stuff), I would sleep with all of his friends. Also, I need to STOP stealing other girls' boyfriends, I made a lot of enemies =x
Thanks so much for your input, just having someone to talk to helps WAY more than you can understand.
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 2:02 pm
Don't let threats control you. He's not your guardian so say he does call the police? What are they going to do? Arrest YOU? No. They'll be annoyed with him for wasting their time when he's really just trying to control a woman he's obsessed with. Actually- he could even get into trouble for that. But you? They'd certainly not be angry with you. He's the one wasting their time. Listen, you may love him- but he's not a healthy partner- mono or poly he is bad news. Mameoyashi is right about the red flags. wahmbulance Don't expect him to change. Read up on the cycles of abuse. Get out, talk to a councilor if you can or read up on controlling relationships. And oh yeah- you can survive without weed and all of those things. I know it's frightening but for your own sake- take that leap of faith- get a job- and stop depending on him. Get some books from your local library. Even though he may not have hit you he is certainly threatening you and nobody should have to live with that. It sounds like you are living on egg shells. http://www.domesticviolence.org/Remember, you deserve the best life you can get! So fight for it.
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 2:06 pm
Don't let threats control you. He's not your guardian so say he does call the police? What are they going to do? Arrest YOU? No. They'll be annoyed with him for wasting their time when he's really just trying to control a woman he's obsessed with. Actually- he could even get into trouble for that. But you? They'd certainly not be angry with you. He's the one wasting their time. Never said they'd arrest me, they'd be trying to find my "kidnapper" lol. Listen, you may love him- but he's not a healthy partner- mono or poly he is bad news. Mameoyashi is right about the red flags. wahmbulance
Don't expect him to change. Read up on the cycles of abuse. Get out, talk to a councilor if you can or read up on controlling relationships. I know the cycles x.x And oh yeah- you can survive without weed and all of those things. I know it's frightening but for your own sake- take that leap of faith- get a job- and stop depending on him. I have a job. My grandmother has a job. We still can't make ends meet. As for the weed... It's my mood stabilizer. Trust me, i'm useless when i'm angry lol Get some books from your local library. Even though he may not have hit you he is certainly threatening you and nobody should have to live with that. It sounds like you are living on egg shells. http://www.domesticviolence.org/Remember, you deserve the best life you can get! So fight for it.
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 2:44 pm
This sounds like a pretty abusive relationship. Maybe it's time to listen to everyone around you telling you to distance yourself from him?
I once dated someone who was extremely controlling, and he did a lot of the same things that your ex does. He would provide financially for me in any way I wanted, as well. He was also trying to get me addicted to cocaine.
It's pretty classic abusive behaviour, to isolate the victim from their friends and family, make the victim spend all their time with the abuser, make the victim financially depedent on the abuser, supporting or encouraging drug habits of the victim to give them yet another level of control over the victim's life...it's all really, really textbook abusive bevahiour.
He is abusive. He's gone considerably beyond "red flags" as far as I'm concerned. The things he's doing are emotionally abusive, and this is not a healthy relationship.
Seriously, get this guy out of your life. He's bad news.
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 2:57 pm
The advice given so far is quite sound.
I could also understand if this were a codependency issue, or a case of you feeling used to the material benefits of your situation and considering those things as more important. If either of these things are true, then I'd ask you what you really wanted to do with your life... but even so, that would be a question of values and more complicated or opinionated perspectives on philosophy and such (in other words: entirely your choice)
On the other hand I honestly wish I could just tell you to get your act together and learn how to be happy with a lifestyle where you aren't depending on anyone in any way. Any kind of relationship chosen out of habit seems less than it could be, and psychologically shaky grounds for aspiring to the more complicated situations which generally come with Polyamory. But I don't know for certain from what you've written that these assumptions I've made about your situation are anywhere near accurate... are they?
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:40 pm
i'm fighting with him again oh god what do i do he took my cigarettes none of our dealers are around im so ******** stressed
im sorry guys i just dont know what to do im crying so hard
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:07 am
Control Freak Anna I have a job. My grandmother has a job. We still can't make ends meet. As for the weed... It's my mood stabilizer. Trust me, i'm useless when i'm angry lol Is this man paying the rent for you and your grandmother? I know this may sound horrible but there are shelters for women in your situation and I am certain they would help you find a place for you and your grandmother. There are cheaper mood stabilizers than pot. Try 5 HTP, or Sam-E, you can find them in natural supplements stores and they increase dopamine in your system and might even work better than pot. As for the shelters, they are scary but I've lived in them and they offer therapy and possibly better job opportunities that will help you get on your feet. You can probably find one in your area online.
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:38 pm
FrostieSlush There are cheaper mood stabilizers than pot. Try 5 HTP, or Sam-E, you can find them in natural supplements stores and they increase dopamine in your system and might even work better than pot. Also DMAE and L-Tyrosine help promote neurotransmitter health and healthy serotinin levels. All very good stuff. For the price of maybe five or six hits of weed, you can have a month's supply of any of the above-mentioned hippy supplements.
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:43 pm
FrostieSlush Control Freak Anna I have a job. My grandmother has a job. We still can't make ends meet. As for the weed... It's my mood stabilizer. Trust me, i'm useless when i'm angry lol Is this man paying the rent for you and your grandmother? I know this may sound horrible but there are shelters for women in your situation and I am certain they would help you find a place for you and your grandmother. There are cheaper mood stabilizers than pot. Try 5 HTP, or Sam-E, you can find them in natural supplements stores and they increase dopamine in your system and might even work better than pot. As for the shelters, they are scary but I've lived in them and they offer therapy and possibly better job opportunities that will help you get on your feet. You can probably find one in your area online.she has savings for this reason, I just don't have my own money.
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