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Naitael

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:14 pm


I'm just wondering what everyone thinks is the best food for their kitties, and how you deal with multiple cats with different needs.

I'm feeding our cat Domino Iams Digestive Care (dry) because otherwise he has bad diarrhea. I tried 3 or 4 Purina brand foods because that's what my parents have always fed their cats with, but no luck until I switched to Iams. Little Mama is being fed Purina Kitten Chow because she's nursing. She's gone through almost a whole 3lb bag in 10 days, though, so I'm not sure if I should switch to the more expensive Iams brand, or just leave it.

A friend of mine has a cat who I think might have food allergies. She's feeding her Iams kitten food, and the kitty was doing really well on it, but now she's starting to lose her fur again (it's been about 6 months since she was switched to Iams).

So what works best for your kitties? What problems have you encountered with your pets' food?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:53 pm


I feed both my girls a raw, prey-model diet, which consists of 10% organs (no more than half of that liver), 10% edible bone (such as small bones from rabbit or poultry) and 80% meat (this includes muscle, fat, skin & fur).

The idea is to approximate the diet that cats evolved to eat - small animals like mice, rabbits, squirrels etc.

I used to feed various commercial foods, but after doing a lot of research, I was really unhappy with all the species inappropriate garbage and filler that was being used - all stuff that cats can't digest, that they get little to no nutritional value from and that are allergenic, like corn, wheat, soy in almost all brands, and fruit & veggies in the more expensive stuff. Things that a true carnivore has no business consuming.

Since I've yet to find a good, affordable source of feeder animals (mice, rats, chicks, quail etc) in Canada, I've been doing "frankenprey" - over time they get the 80/10/10 ratios, but one meal might be all chicken hearts, another might be chicken wings, another might be chopped up beef organs (heart, liver, kidney), another might be a rabbit leg with the skin and fur on. It all depends on what is in my freezer and what they have at the grocery store.

Both my cats are healthy, active and very soft and shiny. Their teeth look good (Clover's very back ones need a bit of brushing but both have very little plaque, and they are mentally stimulated by their food. They're also very well hydrated by eating moist raw meat, their poop and pee smells less and they poop far less - more of what they eat gets digested and used by their bodies.

Neither had any health problems to begin with, but on the raw feeding mailing list I'm on there are a lot of people with cats who have urinary problems, renal failure, diabetes and other chronic illnesses that are well managed by a prey-model diet, so it seems to be all around beneficial. Many also have cats with different needs and issues that do well on the same prey-model diet. Some without teeth require their food to be cut into smaller pieces; some with diabetes require blood sugar monitoring; but no dramatically different diets.

* I found this article recently and after looking at it (and messybeast seems to be a pretty good, reliable resource for information) I'm even more convinced that ditching the commercial cat food was the best decision I ever made. I nearly threw up while reading this:

http://www.messybeast.com/cat-food-industry.htm

If I were going to go back to a commercial food, I'd pick one of the grain free canned varieties and skip the crunchies all together. Evo looks like it's probably one of the best commercial cat food brands out there.

http://www.naturapet.com/search/?animal=cat


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Regarding cat allergies - your friend should look closely at the ingredients of the food she is feeding. Soy and fish can be very allergenic, and cats can be allergic to even something as seemingly innocuous as chicken. She might be well of trying a wet food that is soy, fish and grain -free and that is based on a meat that the cat is less likely to have developed a sensitivity to - rabbit, lamb, venison, duck...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:59 pm


My two big cats eat Whiskas, and they seem to like it a lot, we've changed to other brandmarks, but they don't really like them.
And my kitten eats Kitten Chow mixed with a third of a Whiskas can of meat. She loves it! heart
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:15 pm


I'm currently feeding my cat Friskies Dental Diet. She doesn't need help with her teeth or anything, it was just a flavor she didn't try yet. razz With Friskies, she likes the Seafood flavor the best. heart

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Naitael

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:44 pm


Anlina
I feed both my girls a raw, prey-model diet, which consists of 10% organs (no more than half of that liver), 10% edible bone (such as small bones from rabbit or poultry) and 80% meat (this includes muscle, fat, skin & fur).

The idea is to approximate the diet that cats evolved to eat - small animals like mice, rabbits, squirrels etc.

I used to feed various commercial foods, but after doing a lot of research, I was really unhappy with all the species inappropriate garbage and filler that was being used - all stuff that cats can't digest, that they get little to no nutritional value from and that are allergenic, like corn, wheat, soy in almost all brands, and fruit & veggies in the more expensive stuff. Things that a true carnivore has no business consuming.

Since I've yet to find a good, affordable source of feeder animals (mice, rats, chicks, quail etc) in Canada, I've been doing "frankenprey" - over time they get the 80/10/10 ratios, but one meal might be all chicken hearts, another might be chicken wings, another might be chopped up beef organs (heart, liver, kidney), another might be a rabbit leg with the skin and fur on. It all depends on what is in my freezer and what they have at the grocery store.

Both my cats are healthy, active and very soft and shiny. Their teeth look good (Clover's very back ones need a bit of brushing but both have very little plaque, and they are mentally stimulated by their food. They're also very well hydrated by eating moist raw meat, their poop and pee smells less and they poop far less - more of what they eat gets digested and used by their bodies.

Neither had any health problems to begin with, but on the raw feeding mailing list I'm on there are a lot of people with cats who have urinary problems, renal failure, diabetes and other chronic illnesses that are well managed by a prey-model diet, so it seems to be all around beneficial. Many also have cats with different needs and issues that do well on the same prey-model diet. Some without teeth require their food to be cut into smaller pieces; some with diabetes require blood sugar monitoring; but no dramatically different diets.

* I found this article recently and after looking at it (and messybeast seems to be a pretty good, reliable resource for information) I'm even more convinced that ditching the commercial cat food was the best decision I ever made. I nearly threw up while reading this:

http://www.messybeast.com/cat-food-industry.htm

If I were going to go back to a commercial food, I'd pick one of the grain free canned varieties and skip the crunchies all together. Evo looks like it's probably one of the best commercial cat food brands out there.

http://www.naturapet.com/search/?animal=cat


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Regarding cat allergies - your friend should look closely at the ingredients of the food she is feeding. Soy and fish can be very allergenic, and cats can be allergic to even something as seemingly innocuous as chicken. She might be well of trying a wet food that is soy, fish and grain -free and that is based on a meat that the cat is less likely to have developed a sensitivity to - rabbit, lamb, venison, duck...


Yeah, the raw diet sounds great, but it's probably a little too expensive for me right now. I was thinking about switching to one of the Evo products, depending on price/availability. I mean, Domino has gotten more active since we put him on the Iams, and he's got a glossy coat, doesn't shed a lot, but still... His stools are very soft, borderline diarrhea, and he still uses the litterbox a LOT. His stools are also very odorous, and he has really bad gas, too xd Seriously.

I will pass that information onto my friend, though. I can't say she'll follow it, but maybe I can at least talk her into switching to one of the more organic foods. Her other cat needs to lose weight (he's 25lbs., sheds horribly, and can't really groom himself), and now she's thinking about getting a kitten. Talk about multiple needs.

BTW, I read that article, and I'm never eating hotdogs again. Eyeballs? No way...
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:59 pm


I usually feed my cats the Purina One products. Right now we are trying a new one called Purina One Indoor Cat weight control and hairball control. My cats are very active but their poo does stink pretty badly. Every once in a while for a treat I give them the wet food one cat each. And that is usually the Fancy Feast Elegant Medleys which is a product of Purina. They LOVE them some wet food.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:09 am


I feed my two cats dry Purina. We gave them Meow Mix when we first got them, but one of them kept puking MM up. Haven't had any trouble with Purina Complete Formula. We've tried switching to one of the Purina diet chows (fat cat alert) but they both refused to touch the stuff. I used to try give them wet food as a treat, but after the first time they ate it, they won't touch it.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:55 am


i give mitts and grumbles each 1/3 cup of regular dry science diet in the morning. they love fresh kibble. they don't really finish them. then at night i give each of them 1/4 can of wet science diet minced beef. they usually don't finish them, either. but grumbles gets distressed if she can't find readily accessible food. they just nosh on the food on and off all day.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:44 am


We're on Purina right now. I've heard some pretty bad things about Iams and their testing procedures so I switched right away. We're on a dry diet, but I supplement with chicken bits and organs. We've had very bad luck with meow mix, it upset their stomachs pretty bad.
I get them urinary tract formula once a month for the lil boy and they hate it. lol. So we usually get the healthy weight and hairball formula. I never get them canned wet food because they get diarrhea. They get fed three small meals a day because I have to regulate how much my calico gets. She has thyroid issues and is very fat. My lil beach ball.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:43 pm


I feed my cats Science Diet by Hills which is a dry diet and is a specialty brand u would have to get by your vet but it would work well if your cat has a very sensitive stomach like 2 out of 4 of my cats do. For my 2 cats we use a wet diet from Friskies they prefer the seafood kind but they hate salmon.... we feed them about 2-3 cans a day which seems like a lot but really Salem eats about 1-1.5 cans on his own because he is an outside inside cat with no claws and manages to catch fox, squirl,rabbit, and birds.
I have a brand of treats that they LOVE everytime i open the bag i suddenly have furry slippers lol but i don't have any packs right now so next time i buy them i'll put the type in then.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:47 pm


My cats live for Target Cat Food. I've tried feeding them good, high end food, but they want to have nothing to do with it. My one cat (Tony) will just look at me and meow if I put anything (including wet food) into his dish if it's not the Target brand.

It's not the best, but they all love it and have no ill affects that I can see. They have been eating this kind for a few years now. confused
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:57 pm


My cat loves chicken mcnuggets. I try not to feed him too much because it will make him sick, but it's hard to do that when he's giving you the "OMG I am starving you have to give me something RIGHT NOW or I will die of starvation" look. xp

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:43 am


We have to change the cat food we give him often, ne! one day he wants that sort, the other day he doesn't even look at it anymore sweatdrop if he wouldn't be SO CUTE you could get mad with him, but when he looks at me with that eyes.... I'd forgive him EVERYTHING whee
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:33 am


Grain free all the way!
However, I'd like to be able to feed my little Poe raw....It's just so expensive!

I stick with "Wellness" grain free stuff. It's a bit expensive, but better for kitty! Also, w/ all the pet food recals, I think I can feel a bit safer with slightly more expensive stuff...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:57 pm


EvilWarlordGu
Grain free all the way!
However, I'd like to be able to feed my little Poe raw....It's just so expensive!


Honestly, with a bit of smart shopping raw feeding works out to about the same or sometimes even cheaper than feeding a good quality canned food.

I feed a lot of chicken gizzards, hearts, thighs and drumsticks; beef heart, kidney & liver and some pork neck bones (which are mostly meat and very little bone if you pick carefully) and a bit of salmon. All human-grade meats from the grocery store.

I have three cats right now, who each eat about 4.5oz a day. So it costs me less than a dollar per day to feed each cat.

Prices in my area are no where near as good as what I hear about from other raw feeders in big American cities, where I hear about people getting meat for under $1 per pound.

Freecycle is also a great source for free meat (mostly deer.) I fed my cats for free for about a month on wild game people were cleaning out of their freezers.
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