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 Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:15 am
I was thinking this for a while now, because I adore the topics of vampires, werewolves, zombies, etc. I came to this site http://www.fvza.org/wandz.html and wondered, In Stats alone...
Which of these famous creatures would win in a fight? Vampires Werewolvesor Zombies
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:46 am
I think it is funny that most people are voting for the vamps. I think Werewolves are close second but since the seem to have less control over their "abilities" I think they would not usually win against Vampires. Zoombies by definition have no real independent thought so they do not really seem to be a match for werewolves or vampires.
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:34 am
True that Zombies has no independent thought, but it is safe to say that they do come in many numbers. not only that they do come in numbers...they are also able to spread their group much faster then vampires or werewolves, it could possible take 3 days (if infected) to turn into a zombie....for a person that already died... it takes far less time then a vampire or werewolves...
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:04 pm
As a part time nightstalker myself ( hey! i didnt name us! im just a draftee ^^ ) id vote for the zombies, vamps and fluffies are nasty true, but they have sooo many weaknesses killing them is incredibly easy, also vampires dont multiply that much making them less of a threat and werewolfs have a tendency to be easy to find and target while zombies usually infect a whole town before we get there...
( you "normies" as we call you in the order, most likely refer to us as witch hunters and vampire hunters, but if you ever need one for real look for a nightstalker, easily recognizable by the trench coat, wooden stakes and silver blade ^^ )
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:32 pm
Ay that is true also! You see....I am a fan of zombies mostly...I love their story..i have studied them...Heck call me Dr.Zombie IF you want.
You see Zombies have a way to always come back. You may wipe out an entire city of them....but its that ONE person..that would infect the rest... and start anew.....
When a zombie bites or even scraches a person..that person (without treatment) will turn into a zombie hands down. Same goes for the rest. Vampires Are sometimes picky about who will become a vampire, They do need to feed on blood... When they want to turn a person to a vampire (to my knowlage) they dont drink all of the blood. Werewolves are.....well....Intristing.... they have a tendency to EAT all of the person they attack....most of them are just hungry and some cant control their behavior. The LUCKY FEW people that survive a werewolf bite would become a werewolf in no more then a week... I am still picky in what i would choose....I would choose all 3 but....you know how this goes..^^
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:34 pm
I'd say werewolves, because it doesn't bother them if it 2 or 20 zombies. Also they are simply a lot cooler!
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:58 pm
Werewolves ARE cool..hehe thats a FACT..but zombies do come in more numbers then 20...well..if found in a city.......thats a scary thought...you being in a city.....with hundreds upon hundreds of zombies in every nook and crany of the entire city.....Zombies are also impervious to physical damage, well..the FEELING of being hurt is not in them anymore...they could have all of their legs cut off..all of their arms too..and still be "alive" and "kicking". Werewolves are also strong when it comes to physical damage. but its that Silver bullet that could kill it. Vampires are harder to kill... they are fast and strong, they have more powers. but they have much more weak spots... the garlic (which i dont really believe in.......its dumb to think that garlic which i still havent found the meaning or any magical propertis for vamps to have fear over it) the stake through the heart ( a classic) the cross ( has its reasons.....vamps are rejected by god) holy water ( same reason) and the biggest weakness...the sun itself.......(...but nowadays they are making vampires....sunproof.....i dont mind).. Zombies has only two (of my knowlage) weakness....decapitation..or entire loss of body (like buring..or exploding....or nukes....gotta love nukes ;D)
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:23 am
Don't forget zombies die, if they lose their head or get their neck or spine broken. I am standing on the point, that vampires are more fast than strong and werewolves are a lot more strong than fast. Zombies only gain their strength out of the mass. They are not really intelligent, so a vampire would take them out easily, same with the werewolf who only slaughters everything in sight. Zombies are only driven by the reason to eat, werewolves out of pure aggression and vampires are able to think. But if it comes to vampire vs. werewolf it would be a hard fight for both. That what a werewolf lacks of intelligence is replaced by instincts, vampires are the opposite. The vampire only needs to calculate one variable wrong and his whole plan gets busted.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:40 am
heh seems i missed the point i was thinking in a me vs any of them pattern...
but well if it is indeed a vs between these spawns of evil then my money is on the vamps, as stated before zombies dont really do well with tactics and Fluffies are more of the hunting than tactical type, the reason id vote for vamps is that werewolfs arent able to utilize technology on the same level which would give the vamp an extra edge against the others, some combinations that are quite the bother could be:
Charmed humans with flamethrowers and snipers as assistants.
incredible speed + SMG loaded with silver bullets.
impressive strength + silver sword.
and the list is possibly infinite, one thing is for sure thou, if the werewolf finds the vamp first and its a full moon the fluffy is a sure winner.
but hey thats some pretty bad odds 1/28 money goes on the vamp ^^
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:31 pm
I honestly am having a hard time believing that you guys consider this intelligent conversation.
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There's much more to all three creatures than the stats of strength, speed, and brains. Think about environment, adaptability, tactics, flanking, resources, and allies. God-damn, if you guys are going to have a geek-out debate then do it right.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:27 pm
dboyzero I honestly am having a hard time believing that you guys consider this intelligent conversation. ... There's much more to all three creatures than the stats of strength, speed, and brains. Think about environment, adaptability, tactics, flanking, resources, and allies. God-damn, if you guys are going to have a geek-out debate then do it right. do you have any idea what you are asking? the different combinations of individual situations are so vast it is litterally impossible to discuss it, I.e. a single zombie can take out at least a hundered million vampires and werewolfs armed with plasma rifles and railguns provided the zombie accidently stumbles and hits the little red button after one of its victims accidently fell on the keyboard punching in the right launch code... or imagine this one.. a werewolf falls of a cliff and lies bleeding and maimed on the ground, a one-armed torso of a zombie turns up incredibly enough with a silver fork stuck in the eye it accidently crawls over the werewolf and gently pushes the fork into the almost dead werewolf delivering the final blow... c'mon gimme a break.. generally speaking the vamps would win because they are able to make the most of their suroundings and adapt to changes, unless they involve underwater figthing in a giant baptism pool, or possible combat on the sunny side of any planet. i can agree that this is in no way a intelligent discussion as such, unless you actually have first hand experience in fighting any of these things you can only base your comments on litterature and fiction wrote by people who only briefly brushed up against the supernatural.. im very sure of this because an ongoing investigation of any of these creatures isnt possible for a single individual, you need facilities that can support several specimens as well as round the clock observation and staff to do various horrible tests to the poor things. Now im no expert on any of them ( only been part of a vamp hunting squad once and it wasnt my team that found the bugger ) so dont listen to me besides all im saying that refers to RL encounters you should dismiss as fiction or ramblings since neither ofg us is interested in some secret organization paying you a visit and doing some memory hocus pocus to wash your brain of all i've said ninja
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:34 pm
Zombies: stupid, slow, not at all a threat in small numbers, and usually found in large numbers. they are very easy to kill, a heavy blow to the head or separation of the brain from the body. in large groups, they are very lethal, they surround they're prey, and swarm it. they are not too strong, and smell heavily.they seem to seek out living flesh, usually human flesh. because of this they will probably avoid werewolves and vampires.
types of zombies: generic zombie: usually weak, brought back to life by unknown cause, they cannot spread, but any dead bodies will become reanimated. infectious/diseased: faster and stronger than regular zombies, they spread by biting and scratching, they have larger numbers.
weaknesses: any weapon really, preferably a gun or sword.
Vampires: undead like zombies, but smart and sentient. they can plan and
communicate with each other. although not to strong, they are very fast and highly intelligent. because they are undead, the zombies will probably ignore them. the main threat would then be the werewolves. vampires can transform into many things, like bats and dogs. they too spread through biting.
weaknesses: sunlight, wooden stakes, garlic, any holy item, holy water.
Werewolves: heavily built, muscle machines. huge speed and strength, very large. heightened sense of smell, hearing, and sight. equipped with razor sharp claws and teeth. they are made for fighting. because they are technically not humans, they too would probably evade the zombies. though not quite as intelligent as vampires, they can communicate. because they have heightened senses, they can track down enemies. they spread by biting and scratching.
weaknesses: silver
I personally have to go with werewolves. what do you think?
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:33 am
ok heres one geeks analisyst of the situation
zombies: they grow expotenialy meaning one zombie makes one those two zombies create two those two create 4 ect. till thier isnt any living thing on the earth, some stories have all of the zombie able to attack you so the theory of destroy its brain only goes so far.and they attack en masse, usualy in citys where you would easily be out manned and backed into a corner/building where they would hungerly wait for you till one of these happend 1) they get into the building 2) you starve/dehidrate to death waiting for help that would never come 3) you would commit suicide from the 24 hour moaning coming from outside and unlike the other two they are not bound by the time of day or have to meet special times to transform(depending on weather its a constant transformation or not). they are spread through any bodily fluid exchange(i.e blood, saliva urine. and just becuase you get scratched doesnt mean your instantly infected it would have to break skin
vampires:the older vampires would be stronger since they had time to develop their powers and their blood isnt as thin as the newer generations would be. they are said to be stronger and faster then humans, they are said to be intelegent(depending on the stories you read some are dumber then a bag of hammers in a bag of rocks) but most vampires tend to get a "invulnerability" complex which is a hugh flaw for them(expecaly in the newer generations) they are said to heal faster(well flesh wounds mostly) and can seem to jump really far then humans would be. they are weak against silver(for its purness factor) some stories garlic(because garlic is supposed to heal you) and in some stories they are said to be repealed by holy symbols(depending on the origin of the vampire stories) and are said to die from a steak tot he heart(or paralyze them till it gets removed) the sun is supposed to be the bigest weakness of the vampires becuase the sun is said to be gods light and they are removed from gods graces. vampires are typicaly created by exchange of blood(becuase lets face it folks if it was spread by a simple bite then the human race would have died eons ago)and depending on what storeis you are going by the creation of new vamps has to be aproved by older more powerfull vampires
werewolves: the changlings. they are somtimes refered to as lycans/lycanthrops becuase some stories have more then just wolves. and going by this the different forms would grant different abilitys(i.e. a cat one would probably give more dexterity, a bear more strength.ect.) but as stated before the werewolves tend to devour their victims and then their isnt much chance of new lycanthrops being created, unlike the vamps, and the zombies werewolves remain alive. some stories claim that when you get the disease the you transform completly into the monster. these monsters are said to be stronger then vampires but less intelegent so they could easily be surrounded by zombies, or be laid into a trap by vampires.
theyare weak in their human forms, and highly weak (depending on the stories) to silver becuase it represnts the moon or something along the line. but they are the perfect hunters, they can track scents very well and can see better if not the same as vampires in the night, and they have excelent hearing. but their biggest flaw is that most storeis have them only when the moon is full(and sometimes the lycan would have to see the mooon)so it they have no access to the moon their as good as dead against the vamps and zombies.
over all i would say that zombies would win this match becuase even though the vampire would be stronger it could feel pain, the zombies cant so they can push their limit easily and easily take out a vampire, the same goes for the werewolf
becuase zombies have the swarm instint in them jsut like insects but on a larger scale i mean just think about it yeah one mosquito you can easily take care of but a armfull now thats a lot of wounds
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:41 pm
Vampires would win....at least from what I've seen of them these days as described in "Twilight"and on the show, "Moonlight"....you just don't wanna mess with a vampire or get them angry....They are very strong and when angered even stronger....
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:18 pm
dreams into nights yami ok heres one geeks analisyst of the situation zombies: they grow expotenialy meaning one zombie makes one those two zombies create two those two create 4 ect. till thier isnt any living thing on the earth, some stories have all of the zombie able to attack you so the theory of destroy its brain only goes so far.and they attack en masse, usualy in citys where you would easily be out manned and backed into a corner/building where they would hungerly wait for you till one of these happend 1) they get into the building 2) you starve/dehidrate to death waiting for help that would never come 3) you would commit suicide from the 24 hour moaning coming from outside and unlike the other two they are not bound by the time of day or have to meet special times to transform(depending on weather its a constant transformation or not). they are spread through any bodily fluid exchange(i.e blood, saliva urine. and just becuase you get scratched doesnt mean your instantly infected it would have to break skin vampires:the older vampires would be stronger since they had time to develop their powers and their blood isnt as thin as the newer generations would be. they are said to be stronger and faster then humans, they are said to be intelegent(depending on the stories you read some are dumber then a bag of hammers in a bag of rocks) but most vampires tend to get a "invulnerability" complex which is a hugh flaw for them(expecaly in the newer generations) they are said to heal faster(well flesh wounds mostly) and can seem to jump really far then humans would be. they are weak against silver(for its purness factor) some stories garlic(because garlic is supposed to heal you) and in some stories they are said to be repealed by holy symbols(depending on the origin of the vampire stories) and are said to die from a steak tot he heart(or paralyze them till it gets removed) the sun is supposed to be the bigest weakness of the vampires becuase the sun is said to be gods light and they are removed from gods graces. vampires are typicaly created by exchange of blood(becuase lets face it folks if it was spread by a simple bite then the human race would have died eons ago)and depending on what storeis you are going by the creation of new vamps has to be aproved by older more powerfull vampires werewolves: the changlings. they are somtimes refered to as lycans/lycanthrops becuase some stories have more then just wolves. and going by this the different forms would grant different abilitys(i.e. a cat one would probably give more dexterity, a bear more strength.ect.) but as stated before the werewolves tend to devour their victims and then their isnt much chance of new lycanthrops being created, unlike the vamps, and the zombies werewolves remain alive. some stories claim that when you get the disease the you transform completly into the monster. these monsters are said to be stronger then vampires but less intelegent so they could easily be surrounded by zombies, or be laid into a trap by vampires. theyare weak in their human forms, and highly weak (depending on the stories) to silver becuase it represnts the moon or something along the line. but they are the perfect hunters, they can track scents very well and can see better if not the same as vampires in the night, and they have excelent hearing. but their biggest flaw is that most storeis have them only when the moon is full(and sometimes the lycan would have to see the mooon)so it they have no access to the moon their as good as dead against the vamps and zombies. over all i would say that zombies would win this match becuase even though the vampire would be stronger it could feel pain, the zombies cant so they can push their limit easily and easily take out a vampire, the same goes for the werewolf becuase zombies have the swarm instint in them jsut like insects but on a larger scale i mean just think about it yeah one mosquito you can easily take care of but a armfull now thats a lot of wounds well put, however most werewolves are able to change at will in the original stories. the moon thing is just a modern invention of media.
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