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Roetroc

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:23 am
The reason we have the SCA is because there was supposed to be a reasonable attempt and I for one, am happy to see a reasonable attempt. My first efforts at historical outfits weren't perfect, but they were reasonable attempts.

However, the amount of people who actually put what I would consider to be a reasonable attempt (even from the point of view of a beginner) in the SCA was so low that it put me off any kind of historical recreation for over ten years. So I got into it a bit later than some. When the same person has been wearing the same outfit of poly cotton for ten years, you'd have to ask yourself why are they bothering.  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:04 pm
There's a huge gap between 'reasonable effort' and being just plain picky. I have a couple of sets of garb I wear, and my garb closet is slowly growing. If anyone wants to hassle me about what I wear, because it doesn't look period enough to them, my reply is likely to be the Olde English equivalent of 'Whatever helps you sleep at night, b***h'.

Sarah, I have to agree with you on all points. Comfort, affordability, and availability all win. We work with what we can, since this isn't a perfect world. biggrin  

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:50 pm
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There's a huge gap between 'reasonable effort' and being just plain picky. I have a couple of sets of garb I wear, and my garb closet is slowly growing. If anyone wants to hassle me about what I wear, because it doesn't look period enough to them, my reply is likely to be the Olde English equivalent of 'Whatever helps you sleep at night, b***h'.

Sarah, I have to agree with you on all points. Comfort, affordability, and availability all win. We work with what we can, since this isn't a perfect world. biggrin


Exactly.  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:57 am
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Or when they mix to different patterns and colors of plad. O_o
You may dislike it, but it be's period.

In response to super nit-pickyness; As much as I would love to get and wear a 100% wool feileadh mhor, the only place to get tartan in the amount that I would need is scotland, and they do charge many limbs for it.

I'm quite happy in my 80/20 wool blend kilt I got for $60 and my muslin shirt I purchased right along with it that NO ONE has ever said a damn word about other than "You're a brave man to wear one of those on a day this cold" or to say it looked good on me.

Also, and I know this is counter intuitive because wool is better around fire than a blend is, I ain't takin' no $65/yard fabric anywhere near the forge. Thank you very much.

Roetroc
When the same person has been wearing the same outfit of poly cotton for ten years, you'd have to ask yourself why are they bothering.
Because right now, I only get to see some of my best friends at SCA events, and I'll be damned if I miss a chance to spend time with friends just because I can't afford linen.  

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:27 pm
What I don't understand is the people who buy the cheap material so they can afford five changes of clothes, where their personna would only have the one.
Now, I'm not going to run up and do the burn test on someone's garb, and for the most part I don't make a fuss about period materials, except when I get excited because I have them.

"And to make this color you dye the linen in woad twice, mater once, and the underdress would be dyed in woad once..." Someone walks by in a coathardie made out of teeshirt material, I'm too busy gushing, "Now, I bought it like this, so I have no idea what it was dyed in, but feel this linen. It's so nice."  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:33 pm
Something else I feel the need to vent about:
Bad japanese.
People who don't have a japanese personna, don't do the research for the garb, and run about in what looks like pajama pants with ties on the side because they aren't full enough to pleat into hakuma and vaguely kimono-like shirt.
I think they just like to run around with katanas. neutral  


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:46 am
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+people who don't wear wool because they are "allergic". Yes, wool itches, you aren't allergic, true wool allergies are quite rare.


Perhaps, but one has to believe someone when they say they're allergic to something. Very bad things happen to a person when something they're allergic to gets into their system. Hives may be merely unpleasant, but swelling throats and anaphylactic shock are not to be trifled with.

I have no particular beef with your other pet peeves. After all, we're all interested in different aspects of the game. But when it threatens someone's health, I absolutely draw the line. If a tankard on someone's belt is going to remind them to take a drink on a hot day, if the only footwear someone has that is warm enough to prevent someone from getting frostbite are modern, if a synthetic wool is used to prevent an allergic reaction, I'm not going to argue with the person about it. Ever.

Just my two cents on the matter.

Sarah T. Foole.

agreed, the sca does try to be as close to peroid as possible, but we never ever endanger lives in the process,

i have a sotory on a man in heavy armored comabt that decided he was going to wear a camelbak drinking system under his armor, wich he filled with red coolaid no doubt, during the battle the bladder ruptured, causing red liquid to pour out. the referees though it was blood and stopped the entire battle, untill it was realized that it was only a yummy beverage.

the morals,
use blue collaid,
SAFTEY IS PARAMOUNT,
your garb dosen't have to be completely up to historical accuracy, some things are acceptable  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:08 pm
Kittywitch
Something else I feel the need to vent about:
Bad japanese.
People who don't have a japanese personna, don't do the research for the garb, and run about in what looks like pajama pants with ties on the side because they aren't full enough to pleat into hakuma and vaguely kimono-like shirt.
I think they just like to run around with katanas. neutral


Are you serious? That hurts my brain and makes me sad. If you wanna run around with katana's do so but make a persona that you can acctually do the garb for. Make a back story about how you traveled the world and got them from japan or something for f--ks sake. >.<  

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:18 pm
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Kittywitch
Something else I feel the need to vent about:
Bad japanese.
People who don't have a japanese personna, don't do the research for the garb, and run about in what looks like pajama pants with ties on the side because they aren't full enough to pleat into hakuma and vaguely kimono-like shirt.
I think they just like to run around with katanas. neutral


Are you serious? That hurts my brain and makes me sad. If you wanna run around with katana's do so but make a persona that you can acctually do the garb for. Make a back story about how you traveled the world and got them from japan or something for f--ks sake. >.<
Oh, and that's so much better?
Japan did not trade with Europe in period. For most of the time, neither knew the other was there.

Another bad garb you've reminded me of... too many periods or continents in one outfit.  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:08 pm
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Japan did not trade with Europe in period. For most of the time, neither knew the other was there.

Another bad garb you've reminded me of... too many periods or continents in one outfit.


Though, I will say kumihimo is a ton of fun.  

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:48 pm
I'm not contesting that. There's alot of really cool things about japanese culture, I really wish I had better resources to study period dancing.
I can definitely understand why people want japanese personnas. It's a cool thing. It just annoys me to see people doing anything half-assed.  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:26 am
Thankfully, my bad garb peeve has only surfaced once.

I was talking to someone at a weapon shop at an event (both person and event shall remain nameless, as I am kind and merciful) who was telling me he wanted to get this weapon for his druid outfit, and that bow for his ranger's gear.

WTF? How in the land does one mistake SCA for AD&D???? This isn't a LARP, kids. Go Google Lion Rampant, Amtgard, or one of the many others, if that's what you're after.  

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:50 am
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I'm not contesting that. There's alot of really cool things about japanese culture, I really wish I had better resources to study period dancing.
I can definitely understand why people want japanese personnas. It's a cool thing. It just annoys me to see people doing anything half-assed.


Which is understandable. A half-assed attempt at anything is laziness escaping (and here I am, trying to make a bliaut out of period silk and failing miserably).  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:48 pm
If you don't like my kilts, it doesn't take much to talk me out of one. wink  

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:40 pm
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Also, in the bad garb department, I have one word for you...

TUCHUKS.

The Tuchuks garb isn't bad within the context of their culture.
When massed you can see that each is consistent with what they are going for.
Same with almost any group.
What makes the SCA look bad is that we look like a freaking costume party- everything from Samauri to Romans to Pirates to just about anything else.
As long as we are going to allow anything, we will obviously allow the "caveman" look the Tuchuk culture has developed.  
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