i wanna kill toby!!!! *spolier warning*

[mistress_hydro]

he killed sweeney!!! crying and over lucy's body too! crying at least sweeney is with lucy now in death

discuss: what you thought of that scene.

i gasped when toby slit sweeney's throat. i didn't see that coming!!!  

[Nudge Nudge]

Honestly, if Toby hadn't, Sweeney would have, or the police would've gotten him and either beaten him to death or have him hanged for murder.
First time I saw it, though, I was just so stunned. I was sitting there in the middle of the theatre with my mouth open like an idiot. xD;  

[[Minako]]

I was just reminded briefly of a fanfic I read where Toby was randomly shot during Miracle Elixir. XD

Anyway...Toby is okie dokie in my book. After all, Sweeney really wanted to die so he could be with Lucy in the end. :'3 (Although, having Sweeney Todd 2 would be pretty hawt...)

When you watch the concert version of ST, Sweeney Hearn basically exposes his throat to Toby. o:

I would never think that simple little Toby would kill Sweeney though. The stage productions do cast an older guy as the part, and Toby is slightly insane...heehee.

>><<
Welcome to the grave...

 

[mistress_hydro]

well, it was still sad. plus, toby prolly killed sweeney caused he killed mrs. lovett.  

[weesnah]

This scene was expected, in my opinion
Toby was pissed off because Todd killed Nellie so... revenge, biotch!
Basically

and after that whole "Nothing's going to harm you" bit, totally saw it coming...  

[Shigures Editor]

Well, Sweeney deserved it. He DID kill Mrs. Lovett, who was like a mom to Toby. I mean, wouldn't you be extremely pissed if your parents were unnecessarily killed? ;(  

[Miss Jazzy K]

Shigures Editor

Well, Sweeney deserved it. He DID kill Mrs. Lovett, who was like a mom to Toby. I mean, wouldn't you be extremely pissed if your parents were unnecessarily killed? ;(

Unnecessarily?


Really? She lied and brought about the death of his wife by lying to him, just because she was obsessed.

[/not a Lovett fan]  

[Ritzy_freak]

Allow us all to put ourselves in Toby's position.

You're a little boy, prehaps 12-14ish. depending on who cast you, though I like him younger cause the idea of like a 17 year old singing, "Nothing's gonna harm you" makes it seem romantic in my eyes.
You don't have parents cause you're momma left you at a work house.
You're abused by this werid Italian guy that looks an awful lot like Borat ( rofl ) and the only woman who shows you kindness in the world is Mrs. Lovett.
But is she the sweet woman Toby made her out to be? I think not. He discovers his favorite pies are made from Human flesh!
Then he watches his favorite person in the world get killed.
I think he just had enough. He went off his rocker. And that why he killed Sweeney.  

[mistress_hydro]

Me Llamo B

Shigures Editor

Well, Sweeney deserved it. He DID kill Mrs. Lovett, who was like a mom to Toby. I mean, wouldn't you be extremely pissed if your parents were unnecessarily killed? ;(

Unnecessarily?


Really? She lied and brought about the death of his wife by lying to him, just because she was obsessed.

[/not a Lovett fan]

she didn't really lie, she just didn't tell the whole truth. it was the truth just not all of it. lucy was poisoned but she lived.  

[boo u suck]

mistress_hydro

he killed sweeney!!! crying and over lucy's body too! crying at least sweeney is with lucy now in death

discuss: what you thought of that scene.

i gasped when toby slit sweeney's throat. i didn't see that coming!!!

One of my friends said the exact same thing when she saw Sweeney Todd the first time  

[FantasticDancingBanana]

I actually expected that, and in the movie you can see that sweeney turns his head a bit up, he probably knew that Toby was there, because Toby can't disappear, so Sweeney was waiting for Toby to finish him, so he could be with his wife  

[avocadopenguin]

Whether or not Sweeney knew Toby was there, his death was inevitable and had to happen. Sweeney Todd was not a person in his own right, in my opinion- he was just the psychotic, soulless shell of Benjamin Barker. He had been totally destroyed by everything that had happened to him, and had nothing left to live for.

I think Toby's act of revenge is very sad, but not because of the loss of Sweeney Todd.

By killing Sweeney, Toby could be trapping himself in the cycle of hatred and violence, dooming himself to become very like Sweeney.
Toby is already scarred by the experiences he's had in his childhood (the workhouse and abuse at the hands of "Pirelli", not to mention finding human fingers in pies and seeing his mother figure burned to death in an oven), experiences which would be seriously psychologically damaging to an adult.
Actually murdering someone at such a young age cements his fate.

As far as I can see, he has nowhere to go but back to the workhouse or onto the streets to become a pickpocket, and after that he is likely to grow up psychopathic, sociopathic, nihilistic and in other ways mentally unstable. I know very little about psychology, but he will basically be messed up for reasons which are mostly not his fault. I find that sad.  

[Manga Hobbit]

mutters: Stupid Toby scream

I know I know he deserved it blah blah blah but still ....Poor Sweeney crying
But at least he gets to be with Lucy sad  

[Kuuchu]

[Minako]

I was just reminded briefly of a fanfic I read where Toby was randomly shot during Miracle Elixir. XD>><<
Welcome to the grave...

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

'Twas Pirelli's Miracle Elix--BOOM!

OH LORDY.

xd

 

[loborose22]

Kuuchu

[Minako]

I was just reminded briefly of a fanfic I read where Toby was randomly shot during Miracle Elixir. XD>><<
Welcome to the grave...

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

'Twas Pirelli's Miracle Elix--BOOM!

OH LORDY.

xd

XDDD thats funny. i can just see it. Pirelli: "ah, well. *throws body backstage*"