Save Avatar as Favorite.

[Akashuia]

irishgirl1017

Please for the love of god give us a OPT out option. The same person keeps adding my avatars as a favorite and tbh it's creeping me out.

Yes I know it's only pixels but I don't like it. I am about ready to put my avatar in something really stupid to stop the adding as favorites.

I spend alot of time searching for the items to make my avatars. I have my equipped list on private for a reason and I hate the idea of my avatar being saved in a "collection".

I thought Lanzer said he would add an OPT out option.

I back this idea in the sense that if people are saving my avatar to copy it, I want no part.

If it's simply out of admiration, then fine. But if I see someone who has created the exact avatar I have without my permission, then that would really bother me. I've taken time out of my life to create an avatar I like. Others shouldn't be able to just up and copy it.

[Phanna]

An opt out would be nice, I suppose. Personally I am not bothered by those that want to favorite me and, if I was to actually favorite ones myself, I'm sure most wouldn't mind either.

As it stands now, just blocking that notification and not even looking at the favorites list is the best way to "opt out". It's really nothing to get all that upset over, at least in my personal opinion.

[Cynical Cyanide Overdose]

Touhru Adachi

You aren't notified about people favoriting your avatar if you turn them off, which is very easy to do. You don't have to look at who is favoriting your avatar. And if people can't favorite your avatar, literally nothing can stop them from right clicking and saving it to their computer, or from uploading that image somewhere else.

I see no point in anyone getting into a fuss over this feature, honestly.

Really stupid question but is there a way to opt in to getting avi favorite notifications?

[Catalyste]

Akashuia

But if I see someone who has created the exact avatar I have without my permission, then that would really bother me. I've taken time out of my life to create an avatar I like. Others shouldn't be able to just up and copy it.

Technically you don't own intellectual property here. Any avatar you create is due with the expressed permission of the site, therefore any look you come up with is not owned by you.


I get what you're saying and it would totally bother me too, but that is the reality though. neutral

[Photine]

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

[Tiana Luscinia]

People can just save the avatars to their PC privately though. You just wouldn't know about it. sweatdrop

As of now you can opt out from having your avatars shown to anyone but the people who favorited them. so they won't show up on a public list. I doubt that many people would use it to stalk users. But if the person starts actively harassing you in other ways you can report them. But they probably just like your avatar.

I don't really care if people favorite me. as far as I'm concerned I'm only renting this avatar until Gaia dies. I didn't make the items. I just arranged them like so.

[Knight Yoshi]

Photine

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

Public avatars, public forums, Gaia's content. Literally all this does is keep saving avatars in-house. Prior, users would save the avatar image to their computer and host it on Photobucket, Imgur, Tinypic, and the like.

Your options are to turn off notifications, allowing your equip list to be viewed, and changing your account settings so that if someone adds your avatar to their favorites it's only visible to the person who added it. It's Gaia's site and they control the direction it goes in and this is part of that direction. You're not forced to use it.

[Photine]

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

Public avatars, public forums, Gaia's content. Literally all this does is keep saving avatars in-house. Prior, users would save the avatar image to their computer and host it on Photobucket, Imgur, Tinypic, and the like.

Your options are to turn off notifications, allowing your equip list to be viewed, and changing your account settings so that if someone adds your avatar to their favorites it's only visible to the person who added it. It's Gaia's site and they control the direction it goes in and this is part of that direction. You're not forced to use it.

You know, you can say what ever you want. In the end in Gaia decide for everyone, with out even asking if we even wanted to be apart of this. No options to opt out if we choose to. That heart next to everyone's online stats, every time we go to forums is a constant reminder of that. Sure it's their site and they can do with it as they see fit. But users have express to them that they aren't happy with this. Weather they choose to listen, that's another story.

[Touhru Adachi]

Cyanide Bananas

Yessum, I believe it's right in here at the bottom as Favorite entry.

[Cynical Cyanide Overdose]

Touhru Adachi

Cyanide Bananas

Yessum, I believe it's right in here at the bottom as Favorite entry.

Sweet, thanks.

[Knight Yoshi]

Photine

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

Public avatars, public forums, Gaia's content. Literally all this does is keep saving avatars in-house. Prior, users would save the avatar image to their computer and host it on Photobucket, Imgur, Tinypic, and the like.

Your options are to turn off notifications, allowing your equip list to be viewed, and changing your account settings so that if someone adds your avatar to their favorites it's only visible to the person who added it. It's Gaia's site and they control the direction it goes in and this is part of that direction. You're not forced to use it.

You know, you can say what ever you want. In the end in Gaia decide for everyone, with out even asking if we even wanted to be apart of this. No options to opt out if we choose to. That heart next to everyone's online stats, every time we go to forums is a constant reminder of that. Sure it's their site and they can do with it as they see fit. But users have express to them that they aren't happy with this. Weather they choose to listen, that's another story.

Yep, their site. Not everything needs an option to turn off, that creates user fragmentation.
You don't walk into someone's house after they've added something and complain about how they didn't consult you or complain if they ask you to take off your shoes outside, do you? Their house, their rules and they can add and remove whatever they want. Same concept applies here. If they listened to the users all of the time then nothing and everything would be done all at the same time.

The fact of the matter is, you're in the minority, most users like it. You act like you're heavily offended by something that you don't even use or have interest in being added to the site. It's their site, they don't have to consult users about everything or give an option to turn it off.

Do you think Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, StackOverflow, YouTube, CNN, Funimation, Sony/PSN, Microsoft/Xbox, and the literally millions of other sites all sit around asking what the people want and don't want to give them the option of turning off anything and everything? No.
That's just self-entitlement.

Now don't get me wrong. I like options, I do. I work on Gaia Tools and subsequently GaiaUpgrade. We're all about options, giving users control. However, that's our model and it works for what we do as a third-party service provider for Gaia. However, Gaia needs to guide the site. They can work on things and take user feedback, but ultimately they make the decisions and guide the site.

[irishgirl1017]

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

Public avatars, public forums, Gaia's content. Literally all this does is keep saving avatars in-house. Prior, users would save the avatar image to their computer and host it on Photobucket, Imgur, Tinypic, and the like.

Your options are to turn off notifications, allowing your equip list to be viewed, and changing your account settings so that if someone adds your avatar to their favorites it's only visible to the person who added it. It's Gaia's site and they control the direction it goes in and this is part of that direction. You're not forced to use it.

You know, you can say what ever you want. In the end in Gaia decide for everyone, with out even asking if we even wanted to be apart of this. No options to opt out if we choose to. That heart next to everyone's online stats, every time we go to forums is a constant reminder of that. Sure it's their site and they can do with it as they see fit. But users have express to them that they aren't happy with this. Weather they choose to listen, that's another story.

Yep, their site. Not everything needs an option to turn off, that creates user fragmentation.
You don't walk into someone's house after they've added something and complain about how they didn't consult you or complain if they ask you to take off your shoes outside, do you? Their house, their rules and they can add and remove whatever they want. Same concept applies here. If they listened to the users all of the time then nothing and everything would be done all at the same time.

The fact of the matter is, you're in the minority, most users like it. You act like you're heavily offended by something that you don't even use or have interest in being added to the site. It's their site, they don't have to consult users about everything or give an option to turn it off.

Do you think Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, StackOverflow, YouTube, CNN, Funimation, Sony/PSN, Microsoft/Xbox, and the literally millions of other sites all sit around asking what the people want and don't want to give them the option of turning off anything and everything? No.
That's just self-entitlement.

Now don't get me wrong. I like options, I do. I work on Gaia Tools and subsequently GaiaUpgrade. We're all about options, giving users control. However, that's our model and it works for what we do as a third-party service provider for Gaia. However, Gaia needs to guide the site. They can work on things and take user feedback, but ultimately they make the decisions and guide the site.

Dont care Im in the minority

Fact is Lanzer said he would do an opt out option and he should honor what he said. Dont care if someone can still save the image to their computer I wont know this way I do. If you dont get that thats your issue.

I dont like being forces to participate in something I dont like. There was a feedback thread made and I was not the only one who did not like it. Simply put honor what you said Lanzer do an opt out. If this was never said I would just have to deal with it. Everyone that favs me that I get a notification for goes on my ignore list. Simple as that. Until I can opt out. Turning off notifications is not enough.

[Knight Yoshi]

irishgirl1017

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

Public avatars, public forums, Gaia's content. Literally all this does is keep saving avatars in-house. Prior, users would save the avatar image to their computer and host it on Photobucket, Imgur, Tinypic, and the like.

Your options are to turn off notifications, allowing your equip list to be viewed, and changing your account settings so that if someone adds your avatar to their favorites it's only visible to the person who added it. It's Gaia's site and they control the direction it goes in and this is part of that direction. You're not forced to use it.

You know, you can say what ever you want. In the end in Gaia decide for everyone, with out even asking if we even wanted to be apart of this. No options to opt out if we choose to. That heart next to everyone's online stats, every time we go to forums is a constant reminder of that. Sure it's their site and they can do with it as they see fit. But users have express to them that they aren't happy with this. Weather they choose to listen, that's another story.

Yep, their site. Not everything needs an option to turn off, that creates user fragmentation.
You don't walk into someone's house after they've added something and complain about how they didn't consult you or complain if they ask you to take off your shoes outside, do you? Their house, their rules and they can add and remove whatever they want. Same concept applies here. If they listened to the users all of the time then nothing and everything would be done all at the same time.

The fact of the matter is, you're in the minority, most users like it. You act like you're heavily offended by something that you don't even use or have interest in being added to the site. It's their site, they don't have to consult users about everything or give an option to turn it off.

Do you think Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, StackOverflow, YouTube, CNN, Funimation, Sony/PSN, Microsoft/Xbox, and the literally millions of other sites all sit around asking what the people want and don't want to give them the option of turning off anything and everything? No.
That's just self-entitlement.

Now don't get me wrong. I like options, I do. I work on Gaia Tools and subsequently GaiaUpgrade. We're all about options, giving users control. However, that's our model and it works for what we do as a third-party service provider for Gaia. However, Gaia needs to guide the site. They can work on things and take user feedback, but ultimately they make the decisions and guide the site.

Dont care Im in the minority

Fact is Lanzer said he would do an opt out option and he should honor what he said. Dont care if someone can still save the image to their computer I wont know this way I do. If you dont get that thats your issue.

I dont like being forces to participate in something I dont like. There was a feedback thread made and I was not the only one who did not like it. Simply put honor what you said Lanzer do an opt out. If this was never said I would just have to deal with it. Everyone that favs me that I get a notification for goes on my ignore list. Simple as that. Until I can opt out. Turning off notifications is not enough.

You're only complaining about notifications, to which you can opt-out. You have been told that you can turn them off and how to turn them off.

You're not being forced to participate. You don't have to use it at all.

Lanzer compromised because of what I listed above; public avatars, public forum, Gaia's content.
Lanzer's compromise:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/gaia-news-updates/staff-updates/t.63632027_1846/#1846
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/site-feedback/thank-you-for-allowing-us-to-turn-off-avatar-favorites/t.101898053_15/#15

That's your opt-out, because that's what people were complaining about. Somehow that their privacy was being violated confused You're complaining about notifications which you can already turn off and has been that way longer than the compromise Lanzer implemented last week.

Turn off notifications, set your equip list to be hidden, set your privacy settings so that only the user who favorites it can see it. There you go, you no longer have to deal with it except for the heart icon that has no negative affect on the page.

[Photine]

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

Public avatars, public forums, Gaia's content. Literally all this does is keep saving avatars in-house. Prior, users would save the avatar image to their computer and host it on Photobucket, Imgur, Tinypic, and the like.

Your options are to turn off notifications, allowing your equip list to be viewed, and changing your account settings so that if someone adds your avatar to their favorites it's only visible to the person who added it. It's Gaia's site and they control the direction it goes in and this is part of that direction. You're not forced to use it.

You know, you can say what ever you want. In the end in Gaia decide for everyone, with out even asking if we even wanted to be apart of this. No options to opt out if we choose to. That heart next to everyone's online stats, every time we go to forums is a constant reminder of that. Sure it's their site and they can do with it as they see fit. But users have express to them that they aren't happy with this. Weather they choose to listen, that's another story.

Yep, their site. Not everything needs an option to turn off, that creates user fragmentation.
You don't walk into someone's house after they've added something and complain about how they didn't consult you or complain if they ask you to take off your shoes outside, do you? Their house, their rules and they can add and remove whatever they want. Same concept applies here. If they listened to the users all of the time then nothing and everything would be done all at the same time.

The fact of the matter is, you're in the minority, most users like it. You act like you're heavily offended by something that you don't even use or have interest in being added to the site. It's their site, they don't have to consult users about everything or give an option to turn it off.

Do you think Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, StackOverflow, YouTube, CNN, Funimation, Sony/PSN, Microsoft/Xbox, and the literally millions of other sites all sit around asking what the people want and don't want to give them the option of turning off anything and everything? No.
That's just self-entitlement.

Now don't get me wrong. I like options, I do. I work on Gaia Tools and subsequently GaiaUpgrade. We're all about options, giving users control. However, that's our model and it works for what we do as a third-party service provider for Gaia. However, Gaia needs to guide the site. They can work on things and take user feedback, but ultimately they make the decisions and guide the site.

You know, the fact that lanzer isn't keeping his word about this has already cause user fragmentation among some. But you know. You can disagree with me all you want. You can tell me i am wrong as many times as you wish, because my point of view makes no sense to you. Regardless of how you personally feel according to Gaia, I am allowed to voice my opinion. Nothing you say that will change that.

[Knight Yoshi]

Photine

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Knight Yoshi

Photine

Honestly I don't believe Gaia should have made this mandatory. Users should have the right to decide if they wish to participate in this site feature. In many ways this is unfair and should have been made optional from the start.

Public avatars, public forums, Gaia's content. Literally all this does is keep saving avatars in-house. Prior, users would save the avatar image to their computer and host it on Photobucket, Imgur, Tinypic, and the like.

Your options are to turn off notifications, allowing your equip list to be viewed, and changing your account settings so that if someone adds your avatar to their favorites it's only visible to the person who added it. It's Gaia's site and they control the direction it goes in and this is part of that direction. You're not forced to use it.

You know, you can say what ever you want. In the end in Gaia decide for everyone, with out even asking if we even wanted to be apart of this. No options to opt out if we choose to. That heart next to everyone's online stats, every time we go to forums is a constant reminder of that. Sure it's their site and they can do with it as they see fit. But users have express to them that they aren't happy with this. Weather they choose to listen, that's another story.

Yep, their site. Not everything needs an option to turn off, that creates user fragmentation.
You don't walk into someone's house after they've added something and complain about how they didn't consult you or complain if they ask you to take off your shoes outside, do you? Their house, their rules and they can add and remove whatever they want. Same concept applies here. If they listened to the users all of the time then nothing and everything would be done all at the same time.

The fact of the matter is, you're in the minority, most users like it. You act like you're heavily offended by something that you don't even use or have interest in being added to the site. It's their site, they don't have to consult users about everything or give an option to turn it off.

Do you think Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, StackOverflow, YouTube, CNN, Funimation, Sony/PSN, Microsoft/Xbox, and the literally millions of other sites all sit around asking what the people want and don't want to give them the option of turning off anything and everything? No.
That's just self-entitlement.

Now don't get me wrong. I like options, I do. I work on Gaia Tools and subsequently GaiaUpgrade. We're all about options, giving users control. However, that's our model and it works for what we do as a third-party service provider for Gaia. However, Gaia needs to guide the site. They can work on things and take user feedback, but ultimately they make the decisions and guide the site.

You know, the fact that lanzer isn't keeping his word about this has already cause user fragmentation among some. But you know. You can disagree with me all you want. You can tell me i am wrong as many times as you wish, because my point of view makes no sense to you. Regardless of how you personally feel according to Gaia, I am allowed to voice my opinion. Nothing you say that will change that.

Actually no. That's not user fragmentation. The term user fragmentation does not mean a separation of users that like it vs users that do not.User fragmentation is different user experiences in terms of how they interact with the site. What you're complaining about is not user fragmentation, it's just dissatisfaction that you don't get to have your way.

That's cool, though. You keep your opinion. Lanzer has already spoken on the subject.
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/gaia-news-updates/staff-updates/t.63632027_1846/#1846
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/site-feedback/thank-you-for-allowing-us-to-turn-off-avatar-favorites/t.101898053_15/#15

You have a way to turn off notifications, people viewing your equip list, and only allowing the person who added the avatar as a favorite to see it. That's the compromise. You're not being forced to favorite avatars. If do the three things listed then all you see is the heart, which has no negative impact on the page overall.