The "Magical Girl" sub-genre is child porn

[awkward queen kari]

Coffee Reviver

I can't help it, but every time I see this s**t, I can't help but see grown-a** Japanese men sexualizing ten-year-olds.


If you disagree with me, prove me wrong.

it's a shame that it's turned into that for a lot of people, since many of the shows (those actually designed and aimed at young women; see PreCure in its various incarnations for a pretty good example) can be quite empowering and provide strong role models for girls growing up without a huge source of them.

as for their overt sexualization, that's a shame - and arguably one not confined to mahou shoujo. i'd point out that it's more likely a symptom of a world where women are objectified/commodified that even the attempts to empower them within media often are fetishized, but maybe that's just me.

[tweenwolf]

Yeah, the active and overt sexualization of girls of all ages in SO MUCH shounen and seinen - genres explicitly intended for boys and men - is much worse than anything I've seen in Madoka, Sailor Moon or Precure....

[Peculiar Purple]

Aside from shows like Strike Witches and Vividred Operation, the majority of Magical Girl anime are aimed at children. Hence the young characters.
There will always be a pervert or two drooling over the little girls and their frilly costumes, but they are not the majority of the audience.

This is just an opinion. There is no proof either way.

[Sobbles]

Of everything, one thing about this series that could be right, is the placement of underage girls in dangerous situations and risking their lives. I have seen this series multiple times and have seen no real sexualization of any kind of any of the characters within the anime.

All of the character's outfits project a girly and heroine-type feel, and none of them even seem like 13+ material. I could post any normal images from Madoka Magica to kid's game sites that feature decals and imageboards such as Roblox and it would be approved.

You could say the inevitable nude transformation sequences are questionable, but if you know enough about Mahou Shoujo, it is commonplace, and only if you were to make anything else of it but a cool transformation sequence.

I'm sorry,but I can go up to any decent-looking person on the street and show them, and pretty much everyone wouldn't object.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

[AnActualLizard]

As much as I wished for the happiness of one...


OP, did you even watch Madoka? neutral


...someone else must be equally cursed.




I'm such a fool.

[AKB0048]

Coffee Reviver

I can't help it, but every time I see this s**t, I can't help but see grown-a** Japanese men sexualizing ten-year-olds.


If you disagree with me, prove me wrong.

A majority of it is actually made for little girls. Madoka is one of the few series that is aimed for the seinen demographic. The only other one I can think of is Nanoha.

People who watch stuff like Pretty Cure is about the same as people watching MLP. So, I think you're quite confused about what genre you're talking about.

[Zeoia Kuesk]

I seriously cannot tell if the OP is being serious or if they are trolling. There's rule 34 of everything. Every. Thing. That just means those specific fans are unfortunately very vocal.... However, Magical Girl anime is very empowering for little girls because they can see females being both feminine AND strong. Admittedly, Madoka's target audience probably isn't little girls, since it's such a dark anime.

I don't know what you're trying to prove with those pictures where the girls are just standing there in their costumes?? The characters are not at all sexualized. That is specifically in your mind and your mind only. The fact that you see them completely clothed and still say "that's inappropriate" means that something is wrong with your mind.

TLDR; This is unfortunately a sexual world where the female body is considered inappropriate by default.

[Tenko72]

tweenwolf

Yeah, the active and overt sexualization of girls of all ages in SO MUCH shounen and seinen - genres explicitly intended for boys and men - is much worse than anything I've seen in Madoka, Sailor Moon or Precure....

Madoka is seinen.

There are some pornographic magical girl series, like Djibril and that one with the robot that runs on semen, but Puella Magi Madoka Magica isn't one of them.

[X_of_Pentacles]

If all magical girls were allowed to run around in pants, would you have a problem? The dress issue shows up in every social media form I've seen coming from most of the world. Live movies? The girls wore dresses, slinky-skinny-ragged-short-long-in strips. Japan is attempting to ensure no one confuses the cast as male. (There are anime that turn males into female.)

Pokemon games chronically give girls dresses, regardless of the weather in game. One of the Gym leaders lived in the north pole it seemed. She wore a uniform school dress, some high socks, and patent leather shoes. Her gym? Freezing cold, in a cold climate, using cold pokemon!

Japan isn't attempting anime porn with most of their magical girls catered to teens, this show included. The US sexualizes everything, so you can take it like it is; or you can start asking those from other countries. My Spanish teacher told us kids can touch asses, chests and shoulders. It's not overtly sexual in any way. That short skirt really was just a short skirt, not an invitation.

[Sakura Latte]

Zeoia Kuesk

I seriously cannot tell if the OP is being serious or if they are trolling. There's rule 34 of everything. Every. Thing. That just means those specific fans are unfortunately very vocal.... However, Magical Girl anime is very empowering for little girls because they can see females being both feminine AND strong. Admittedly, Madoka's target audience probably isn't little girls, since it's such a dark anime.

I don't know what you're trying to prove with those pictures where the girls are just standing there in their costumes?? The characters are not at all sexualized. That is specifically in your mind and your mind only. The fact that you see them completely clothed and still say "that's inappropriate" means that something is wrong with your mind.

TLDR; This is unfortunately a sexual world where the female body is considered inappropriate by default.

Precisely this.

OP, it is YOU who has a problem if you're looking at innocent, non-sexually depicting images and immediately sexualizing them in your mind.

[Starshine]

You can't generalise the magical girl category like that. In Japan the students do wear very short skirts, that's a reflection of reality. In anime the girls are drawn with longer legs as an art style, heck, the guys gets the same treatment.

Madoka Magica is a darker deconstruction version of the genre, but it's not sexualised, nor is it advertised or pretends to be.

Now if you were to talk about Saya no Uta, from the same crerator as Madoka, then I'd agree with you there. That was practically designed as child porn.

[Sakura Latte]

Starshine

You can't generalise the magical girl category like that. In Japan the students do wear very short skirts, that's a reflection of reality. In anime the girls are drawn with longer legs as an art style, heck, the guys gets the same treatment.

Madoka Magica is a darker deconstruction version of the genre, but it's not sexualised, nor is it advertised or pretends to be.

Now if you were to talk about Saya no Uta, from the same crerator as Madoka, then I'd agree with you there. That was practically designed as child porn.

Err, no. Japanese school uniform skirts IRL are a little above or at about knee-length. Many schools have a specific policy on the length of the skirt, and some may even punish you if you wear a skirt too short (such as by rolling it up).

[Starshine]

Sakura Parfait

Err, no. Japanese school uniform skirts IRL are a little above or at about knee-length. Many schools have a specific policy on the length of the skirt, and some may even punish you if you wear a skirt too short (such as by rolling it up).

Huh? When I visited Tokyo I saw a lot of school girls with short skirts and thought it was the norm. Do they pull it up after school or something? whee

[Euphonious Cantabile]

Grace Gubreez

Coffee Reviver

BeautifulMidniteRose

To be completely honest, you're the one making the claim that Magical Girl animes are child porn, so you have to provide proof of it. It's a logical fallacy called "Begging the Question" for you to ask us to prove you wrong. You make the claim, so back it up with proof.

So, prove that you're right is what I'm basically saying.

I just did a basic image search on google, and here are a few examples from the first page:


http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/46/35/586796.jpg
http://mikeolotaku.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/madoka-magica-dark.jpg
http://stuffpoint.com/puella-magi-madoka-magica/image/121149-puella-magi-madoka-magica-puella-magi-madoka-magica.jpg (This one in particular is disgusting)
http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/39/25/528789.jpg (And this one's not far behind)

Now to me, this looks like the exploitation of little girls with adult sized breasts in skimpy clothing. It's like a ***** sick fantasy.

you are right about the last two images, but there is a way of fixing it. Remove the red haired girl from the first picture. Now that picture has NOTHING innapropriate about it.

Last picture. The bikinis are fine. Remove the lines on their skin in their bikini bottom area for Pink and blue hair. There picture fixed.

I do not see a problem with the other two pictures

and like another user said, at their age some girls can have big breasts. Besides, out of all the animes, none of these have unnatural looking ones.

(and to any madoka fans who read this, I am using colors to name the characters so that people who haven't watched the show know what I'm talking about.)

There still isn't anything inappropriate about the 3rd link. The girls are just having a slumber party in that picture, nothing more. The Japanese don't view it as sexualizing children as Americans do. Heck, in another magical girl anime, Cardcaptor Sakura, there are a few episodes where you see the main character taking a bath and it shows the top half of her naked. Is that child porn? Of course not, because the Japanese are comfortable with their own bodies and do not see drawing naked bodies, no matter what the age, as sexual.

The girls in Madoka Magica are also supposedly in high school--Madoka's (the pink-haired girl) 14, and Mami (the blonde girl) must be 16 or 17 since she was a 3rd year and older than Madoka. I can only assume that Sayaka (the blue haired girl) is the same age as Madoka. When I was 14, I saw other girls my age wear bikinis, so I don't know what's so wrong with that.

Cultural difference--learn it, people!

[Sakura Latte]

Starshine

Sakura Parfait

Err, no. Japanese school uniform skirts IRL are a little above or at about knee-length. Many schools have a specific policy on the length of the skirt, and some may even punish you if you wear a skirt too short (such as by rolling it up).

Huh? When I visited Tokyo I saw a lot of school girls with short skirts and thought it was the norm. Do they pull it up after school or something? whee

Probably.