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"Donfandango" Well I've got a couple. If i had money probably a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda (only they cost freakin heaps in Australia) In the real world probably a HR holden, their small so they'd be great with a 202 6 cylinder (or even a V8 if it's a weekend car) For a race car I'd love a sprint car. race all around Australia it would be great. Cuda's cost freakin heaps everywhere!!! gonk |
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"Battle Version" "Donfandango" Well I've got a couple. If i had money probably a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda (only they cost freakin heaps in Australia) In the real world probably a HR holden, their small so they'd be great with a 202 6 cylinder (or even a V8 if it's a weekend car) For a race car I'd love a sprint car. race all around Australia it would be great. Cuda's cost freakin heaps everywhere!!! gonk I wonder why but. I gather its a piece of American automotive history, but it would not perform competitively against modern machinery. |
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"Joey Crash" I wonder why but. I gather its a piece of American automotive history, but it would not perform competitively against modern machinery. I would not be so quick to discount it. the Cuda was developed for Trans-Am races. At aproximatly 425bhp and 3,000 lbs, .70g skid pad (with 30yr old tires), and a 56/44 weight distribution all bone stock off the show room floor. Its more than a match for most modern factory cars. |
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"Battle Version" "Joey Crash" I wonder why but. I gather its a piece of American automotive history, but it would not perform competitively against modern machinery. I would not be so quick to discount it. the Cuda was developed for Trans-Am races. At aproximatly 425bhp and 3,000 lbs, .70g skid pad (with 30yr old tires), and a 56/44 weight distribution all bone stock off the show room floor. Its more than a match for most modern factory cars. The numbers on paper are just that m8, numbers on paper. I have seen the new Mustangs torn to shreds by the Dutton Rally boys, who have to run stock everything almost. A further example might be Holden's R8 Clubbie looks fabulous. Stick it on the track, and watch it get left behind. That's almost 320kW factory-stated, 290+ as tested on a DD rolling road, shootout mode. Far more than older production cars. Still can't cut it. On the street, its another matter entirely. Lets just say that the classic car clubs don't open their trackdays to us for a good reason. |
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Those number were not on "paper" They were from the Trans-Am winners circle. And the classic club racers keep their cars "vintage".
In autocross most muscle cars are just rolling chassis with well updated brakes and suspension. Case in point there is a baby blue 71 Cuda AAR that I see almost everytime I go to the track. The old guy that drives it has "modernized" the car in almost every area. He is a front runner in the unlimited class and drives the car to and from the track. I have loads of respect for that car. I love to watch it beat up on the corvettes and vipers. |
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"Joey Crash" "Battle Version" "Donfandango" Well I've got a couple. If i had money probably a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda (only they cost freakin heaps in Australia) In the real world probably a HR holden, their small so they'd be great with a 202 6 cylinder (or even a V8 if it's a weekend car) For a race car I'd love a sprint car. race all around Australia it would be great. Cuda's cost freakin heaps everywhere!!! gonk I wonder why but. I gather its a piece of American automotive history, but it would not perform competitively against modern machinery. That is why I'd get a barracuda only for a show car. They look great but really when it comes down to it for their time they weren't very fast, especially compared to they phase 3 XY GT's. Hence why I'd go with a HR if i wanted power. I Know a guy with a HD, it's got a Blown 308. that thing is quick and it didn't cost him much, but i don't really like HD's so I'd go with the HR but yeah their pretty much the same thing so it don't really worry me. |
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"drifting rules" :!my dream car is a ford mustang for some reason i cant get a picture sweatdrop sweatdrop of the car You can get one of those that runs for less than 1,000 |
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"Battle Version" "Joey Crash" I wonder why but. I gather its a piece of American automotive history, but it would not perform competitively against modern machinery. I would not be so quick to discount it. the Cuda was developed for Trans-Am races. At aproximatly 425bhp and 3,000 lbs, .70g skid pad (with 30yr old tires), and a 56/44 weight distribution all bone stock off the show room floor. Its more than a match for most modern factory cars. You might want to slap on the extra 600lbs that you were hiding. My volvo 240 almost weighs that much. It would be destroyed by the cars with near or a little more than half the power |
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"Battle Version" Those number were not on "paper" They were from the Trans-Am winners circle. And the classic club racers keep their cars "vintage". In autocross most muscle cars are just rolling chassis with well updated brakes and suspension. Case in point there is a baby blue 71 Cuda AAR that I see almost everytime I go to the track. The old guy that drives it has "modernized" the car in almost every area. He is a front runner in the unlimited class and drives the car to and from the track. I have loads of respect for that car. I love to watch it beat up on the corvettes and vipers. Is this bloke in Oz by any chance? I'd love to go and experience what it has to offer and take some pictures on the side(make no mistake, there are people with old Chevy bodies and that's about it. Full cages give them their stiffness, frankie engines give them insane torque down low, MOTEC's run the lumps and logging, all that jazz) That being said, I hardly see any of these cars at the Sprints. Wonder why. Please don't get me wrong, I love the older cars. Its just that by and large, their days are over. |
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"Joey Crash" Is this bloke in Oz by any chance? I'd love to go and experience what it has to offer and take some pictures on the side(make no mistake, there are people with old Chevy bodies and that's about it. Full cages give them their stiffness, frankie engines give them insane torque down low, MOTEC's run the lumps and logging, all that jazz) That being said, I hardly see any of these cars at the Sprints. Wonder why. Please don't get me wrong, I love the older cars. Its just that by and large, their days are over. I see him run it in Houston. according to him he has been racing it since he bought it, (thats what he bought it for) some 20+ yrs ago. And doesn't worry about the abuse and body damage that comes from the track (the reason most people won't run them). Older or newer, it really doesn't matter to me. Everyone has their style and each car it's strength or lack there off, but thats what tuning is for. I wouldn't expext it to do well at lemans next to corporate cars, but at a scca or street tuner event it would be different and fun alternative to all the 350z's |
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"veyron1001" You might want to slap on the extra 600lbs that you were hiding. My volvo 240 almost weighs that much. It would be destroyed by the cars with near or a little more than half the power Those number where just a baseline. I picked the model with the best hp to weight ratio to prove a point. different trim levels and drive train options greatly affect the weight. |
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"Battle Version" "Joey Crash" Is this bloke in Oz by any chance? I'd love to go and experience what it has to offer and take some pictures on the side(make no mistake, there are people with old Chevy bodies and that's about it. Full cages give them their stiffness, frankie engines give them insane torque down low, MOTEC's run the lumps and logging, all that jazz) That being said, I hardly see any of these cars at the Sprints. Wonder why. Please don't get me wrong, I love the older cars. Its just that by and large, their days are over. I see him run it in Houston. according to him he has been racing it since he bought it, (thats what he bought it for) some 20+ yrs ago. And doesn't worry about the abuse and body damage that comes from the track (the reason most people won't run them). Older or newer, it really doesn't matter to me. Everyone has their style and each car it's strength or lack there off, but thats what tuning is for. I wouldn't expext it to do well at lemans next to corporate cars, but at a scca or street tuner event it would be different and fun alternative to all the 350z's 20 bloody years on the same chassis??? eek That's very impressive! |
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