NASA: old video but Wtf?

[Michael Noire]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_zMaSPPdpQ&feature=related


what do you suppose it is?

It doesn't look like Sprites or other upper atmospheric phenomena and the objects seem too bright, organized and numerous to be comets. There's also one that's moving much faster than others in a streak.

Do you think this is might be high energy cosmic rays they were talking about recently?

It seems too numerous and localized to be satellites.

[Vryko Lakas]

Space debris, most likely.
You can't see high-energy cosmic rays because they're beyond the visible spectrum.

No, wait, what am I saying? The most likely explanation is aliens.

[Michael Noire]

the space debris explanation doesn't work for several reasons, including luminosity, trajectory, velocity, and concentration. If those objects were moving with such proximity uncontrolled in space, any shuttle would be lucky to last 10 minutes. The space debris has to either fall into reentry or orbit. After a few weeks most objects in space would have already under the sway of one or the other. These objects would have to be brand new, and be emitted from a relatively localized source. Even meteor showers are more reasonable explanations.

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Michael Noire

the space debris explanation doesn't work for several reasons, including luminosity, trajectory, velocity, and concentration. If those objects were moving with such proximity uncontrolled in space, any shuttle would be lucky to last 10 minutes. The space debris has to either fall into reentry or orbit. After a few weeks most objects in space would have already under the sway of one or the other. These objects would have to be brand new, and be emitted from a relatively localized source. Even meteor showers are more reasonable explanations.

Um no?
The debris is so far away that it's just little tiny dots
and everything is a freefall that's what orbit is genius. It's just your falling in a way that you "miss" the earth

You really need to learn physics

[Golden Dysprosium]

Vryko Lakas

Space debris, most likely.
You can't see high-energy cosmic rays because they're beyond the visible spectrum.
No, wait, what am I saying? The most likely explanation is aliens.

Silly Vryko. You know we always jump to the most unlikely explainations in science! biggrin

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Michael Noire

the space debris explanation doesn't work for several reasons, including luminosity, trajectory, velocity, and concentration. If those objects were moving with such proximity uncontrolled in space, any shuttle would be lucky to last 10 minutes. The space debris has to either fall into reentry or orbit. After a few weeks most objects in space would have already under the sway of one or the other. These objects would have to be brand new, and be emitted from a relatively localized source. Even meteor showers are more reasonable explanations.

Assuming it's debris, it could have been debris from a previous shuttle docking (some insulating foil perhaps), as such it would be in the same orbit and with an extremely small delta-v relative to the station. It could even have settled against the hull, only to be blown away by the undocking of the shuttle there. The illumination suggests to me that it is extremely close to the light source and highly reflective, so that seems most likely to me.

[The20]

You can see one between the camera and the satellite (or whatever this is they are deploying) - that ain't no alien spaceship, pal.

(If anyone cares, it's moving from the bottom of the screen to the top between 1:05 and 1:12, it's a little left from the middle of the screen.)

[50ul84n3]

did anyone stop to think that those dots may have been the results of depressurization of the cargo bay? gasses that condensed in the cold and are boiling due to the reduced pressure?

[Michael Noire]

Conspiracy Soup

Michael Noire

the space debris explanation doesn't work for several reasons, including luminosity, trajectory, velocity, and concentration. If those objects were moving with such proximity uncontrolled in space, any shuttle would be lucky to last 10 minutes. The space debris has to either fall into reentry or orbit. After a few weeks most objects in space would have already under the sway of one or the other. These objects would have to be brand new, and be emitted from a relatively localized source. Even meteor showers are more reasonable explanations.

Um no?
The debris is so far away that it's just little tiny dots
and everything is a freefall that's what orbit is genius. It's just your falling in a way that you "miss" the earth

You really need to learn physics

Explain the divergent streak in the 0:58-1:02 time unit.

Also note around 1:46-1:54 you have objects moving in opposite diagonal directions, and several other objects moving in different speeds. The irregularity of motion, direction, and velocity is not consistent with a uniform gravitational field or a gas jet.

[Vryko Lakas]

Michael Noire

Explain the divergent streak in the 0:58-1:02 time unit.

Space.
Junk.

Quote:

Also note around 1:46-1:54 you have objects moving in opposite diagonal directions, and several other objects moving in different speeds. The irregularity of motion, direction, and velocity is not consistent with a uniform gravitational field or a gas jet.

lolwut?


Why do you keep doing this kind of thing?

[Golden Dysprosium]

Michael Noire

Conspiracy Soup

Michael Noire

the space debris explanation doesn't work for several reasons, including luminosity, trajectory, velocity, and concentration. If those objects were moving with such proximity uncontrolled in space, any shuttle would be lucky to last 10 minutes. The space debris has to either fall into reentry or orbit. After a few weeks most objects in space would have already under the sway of one or the other. These objects would have to be brand new, and be emitted from a relatively localized source. Even meteor showers are more reasonable explanations.

Um no?
The debris is so far away that it's just little tiny dots
and everything is a freefall that's what orbit is genius. It's just your falling in a way that you "miss" the earth
You really need to learn physics

Explain the divergent streak in the 0:58-1:02 time unit.

Right after you explain why we only see these dots after the rocket seperates from the dock.