[ Poll ] do u believe that we evolved from monkeys?

do you believe that we evolved from the ancestors of monkeys?

yes		55.8%	[ 241 ]
no		35.4%	[ 153 ]
not sure because you dont know anything at the matter of this topic		8.8%	[ 38 ]

Total Votes: 432

[Alt_Jack]

1w1uwuu1

Even if you claim they could, it would take a heck of a lot longer than billions of years to get physical features like a woodpeckers beak, a hummingbirds flying ability, and even the way sea horses look. And that's only scratching the surface... I could also cite the beating heart or eyeball and other body parts as things that, in all probability, could never happen without a Creator.
Do you even know how tiny a one-cell is? It's far tinier than a hair on your arm. Compare that to giraffes over 10 feet tall or animals or people. If you ever see wild animals (excluding pets) it's not hard to see the hand of God made them... they are amazing looking creatures a lot of them, like elephants.
Evolution doesn't exist. God made everything on earth.

Let me explain this as simply as I can:
Little pieces make big things,
http://www.weisers.com/Nate/images/legocastle.jpg
and if you change the pieces, you get different things.
http://jasperjahlai.com/LEGO_CASTLE_2.jpg

[IronySandwich]

1w1uwuu1

No. Dogs make dogs, foxes make foxes, lions make lions. They aren't going to make anything else.

Expanding on the wolves made dogs line. Look at a great dane, Now look at a chihuahua. 10,000 years separate those two breeds from their wolf ancestor.

If you honestly believe that 10,000 years could turn a wolf into a both a chihuahua and a great dane, but 500 times that long could not turn our ape ancestor into a chimpanzee and a human, then you are quite simply out of your mind.

[Amber Beginnings in Flame]

Vryko Lakas

Yes things do evolve.

PIKACHU! I CHOOSE YOU!




op. don't take everything so litterally. they weren't monkeys. but think about this, over a few milennia a land wolf like dog evolved into the modern whale.

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Jennivieve

I've never understood why people feel that it must be one or the other. Here's one way that it can be merged.

The Bible says that the Earth and all the life on it was created in 6 days. (The 7th day was a day of rest.) The geologic record says that the Earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. The theory of relativity could be applied there. Say that one of God's days equals millions of years here on Earth. This could well provide enough time for evolution to occur on the same schedule as the Bible says.

not that i don't agree with but here's a ponder for you you say gods years are millions years here on earth. maybe god lives some where around a black hole this would explain the extreme time lag in prompt answering of prayers.

[piscator]

Jennivieve

I've never understood why people feel that it must be one or the other. Here's one way that it can be merged.

The Bible says that the Earth and all the life on it was created in 6 days. (The 7th day was a day of rest.) The geologic record says that the Earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. The theory of relativity could be applied there. Say that one of God's days equals millions of years here on Earth. This could well provide enough time for evolution to occur on the same schedule as the Bible says.

not that i agree with you but here's a ponder for you. you say gods years are millions of years here on earth. maybe god lives somewhere around a black hole this would explain the extreme time lag in prompt answering of prayers.

[Golden Dysprosium]

Jennivieve

I've never understood why people feel that it must be one or the other. Here's one way that it can be merged.
The Bible says that the Earth and all the life on it was created in 6 days. (The 7th day was a day of rest.) The geologic record says that the Earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. The theory of relativity could be applied there. Say that one of God's days equals millions of years here on Earth. This could well provide enough time for evolution to occur on the same schedule as the Bible says.

But the Bible doesn't say anything about evolution, and is unclear about certain time frames. The thing everyone on the supernaturalists' team have to keep in mind is that the Bible is in no way a scientific document. It's like taking a child to a magic show; the child sees something, then interprets it as being magic, since they can't comprehend any other explaination. You (the skeptic) know there was a trapdoor under that box, but the child (the God Squad) thinks the magician can traverse time and space at will.
Who wrote Genesis anyway? Is there an author credited? Was said person there at the time?

piscator

not that i don't agree with but here's a ponder for you you say gods years are millions years here on earth. maybe god lives some where around a black hole this would explain the extreme time lag in prompt answering of prayers.

Why that's wrong as well as Correlation =/= causation.
You wouldn't happen to be a Mormon, by chance?

[xyre_silverfangs]

No, I don't believe we evolved from monkeys because we evolved from apes, and we still are apes today. We're humans as well, but we're also apes and apes are primates so we're primates as well. It's the same concept that a Mallard is a Duck which is a kind of bird which in turn descended from dinosaurs.

We were not specially created, or manifested into existence by the incantation of some kind of super being. People like to say that "If evolution is just a theory, then why is it regarded as fact?" Those people don't know what a theory actually is; A scientific study. Gravity is also a theory, just like it's a fact. But the "Theory of Gravity" is the study of the mechanics that makes gravity work. So, the word "theory" is not science's way of saying "We guess *shrug*", but an educated study regarding a topic. Cells are also a theory, as is the study of the orbit of the planets around our sun, music is also a theory as well.

Your next objection to the word theory might be "But, theory's are never proven, so they're inherently false!" That is also not true. Theory's are always being unproven and replaced by another theory because that's the aperture of science - Scientists suggest a likely conclusion, or a hypothesis, and then research the hypothesis with tools that can be weighed and measured. If the hypothesis is found to be false, then it is thrown out until something better is determined. Science is always doing checks and balances on what it believes to make sure that everything weighs out, and again, regardless of how much they may *want* to believe something, they have to toss their research out all the time.

Evolution is hardly Creation "Science" Where they suggest something they want to believe and then point out only that evidence which supports their claims. "Christian Science" is no science at all, but a title the church slapped on its self because it wanted the scientific community to take it seriously. The church wants to destroy modern science and feels that it can do so by getting on the 'inside'... Unfortunately, they've never submitted a single claim to peer review ( Because, frankly they know they'd fail miserably!) and will never be awared any notoriety for their 'studies'.

[Golden Dysprosium]

xyre_silverfangs

Evolution is hardly Creation "Science" Where they suggest something they want to believe and then point out only that evidence which supports their claims. "Christian Science" is no science at all, but a title the church slapped on its self because it wanted the scientific community to take it seriously. The church wants to destroy modern science and feels that it can do so by getting on the 'inside'... Unfortunately, they've never submitted a single claim to peer review ( Because, frankly they know they'd fail miserably!) and will never be awared any notoriety for their 'studies'.

The Wedge Strategy/document comes to mind.... xp
Or basically,
http://www.durangobill.com/CreationismPics/CreationismPopular.gif

[piscator]

Patella

Jennivieve

I've never understood why people feel that it must be one or the other. Here's one way that it can be merged.
The Bible says that the Earth and all the life on it was created in 6 days. (The 7th day was a day of rest.) The geologic record says that the Earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. The theory of relativity could be applied there. Say that one of God's days equals millions of years here on Earth. This could well provide enough time for evolution to occur on the same schedule as the Bible says.

But the Bible doesn't say anything about evolution, and is unclear about certain time frames. The thing everyone on the supernaturalists' team have to keep in mind is that the Bible is in no way a scientific document. It's like taking a child to a magic show; the child sees something, then interprets it as being magic, since they can't comprehend any other explaination. You (the skeptic) know there was a trapdoor under that box, but the child (the God Squad) thinks the magician can traverse time and space at will.
Who wrote Genesis anyway? Is there an author credited? Was said person there at the time?

piscator

not that i don't agree with but here's a ponder for you you say gods years are millions years here on earth. maybe god lives some where around a black hole this would explain the extreme time lag in prompt answering of prayers.

Why that's wrong as well as Correlation =/= causation.
You wouldn't happen to be a Mormon, by chance?

Proud to be a dreaded atheist i just thought it could explain why god doesn't save the babies who die horribly every year. from preventable reasons i my humble opinion god as a force for good seems to be a big failure.

[Golden Dysprosium]

piscator

Patella

Jennivieve

I've never understood why people feel that it must be one or the other. Here's one way that it can be merged.
The Bible says that the Earth and all the life on it was created in 6 days. (The 7th day was a day of rest.) The geologic record says that the Earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. The theory of relativity could be applied there. Say that one of God's days equals millions of years here on Earth. This could well provide enough time for evolution to occur on the same schedule as the Bible says.

The thing everyone on the supernaturalists' team have to keep in mind is that the Bible is in no way a scientific document.

piscator

not that i don't agree with but here's a ponder for you you say gods years are millions years here on earth. maybe god lives some where around a black hole this would explain the extreme time lag in prompt answering of prayers.

Why that's wrong as well as Correlation =/= causation.
You wouldn't happen to be a Mormon, by chance?

Proud to be a dreaded atheist i just thought it could explain why god doesn't save the babies who die horribly every year from preventable reasons in my humble opinion god as a force for good seems to be a big failure.

Are you sure you're an atheist? 'cuz it seems like you're playing both sides, and that's an agnostic thing. neutral
Let me just close this topic by pointing out the conclusions that everyone eventually comes to in the 8 million threads about Evolution/Creationism:
-Creationism isn't science, and never will be
-Evolution is real, with tons of evidence to back it up
-Evolution isn't a theory, it's a scientific theory, which is about as close to fact as it gets
-Humans didn't evolve from "monkeys", but a common ancestor, much like dogs are descended from wolves.
-the Bible is insufficient for scientific data, as modern science has only come into being in the last 200 years, with nearly a millenia seperating the two
-Pope John Paul II said that Evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis, but factual
-you can reconcile the two by saying God created Evolution, though this is playing Devil's advocate
-Creationism is blatantly Christian, with Christian doctrine leanings
-science seeks to address natural phenonemon, while religion deals with the supernatural, which cannot be tested by scientific means

[Anima De Arcana]

Thank you Patella, thank you.

[Golden Dysprosium]

Anima De Arcana

Thank you Patella, thank you.

mrgreen
Gah! Spider Bears!

[xyre_silverfangs]

Patella

Anima De Arcana

Thank you Patella, thank you.

mrgreen
Gah! Spider Bears!

Yeah, Patella. You rock! Bring on the rationalists!

If the creationists had it their way, we'd go back in time when botulism was still a sauce, back when a grand total of 5% of all babies survived their first year, while plague, death, and poverty was abound. I give thanks to the human intelect for creating the scientific process. It'll give us a chance to finally break away from the bullshit and make some actual sense out of the world around us.

"Godidit" is not an answer, not one that holds weight.

[xyre_silverfangs]

piscator

Patella

Jennivieve

I've never understood why people feel that it must be one or the other. Here's one way that it can be merged.
The Bible says that the Earth and all the life on it was created in 6 days. (The 7th day was a day of rest.) The geologic record says that the Earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. The theory of relativity could be applied there. Say that one of God's days equals millions of years here on Earth. This could well provide enough time for evolution to occur on the same schedule as the Bible says.

But the Bible doesn't say anything about evolution, and is unclear about certain time frames. The thing everyone on the supernaturalists' team have to keep in mind is that the Bible is in no way a scientific document. It's like taking a child to a magic show; the child sees something, then interprets it as being magic, since they can't comprehend any other explaination. You (the skeptic) know there was a trapdoor under that box, but the child (the God Squad) thinks the magician can traverse time and space at will.
Who wrote Genesis anyway? Is there an author credited? Was said person there at the time?

piscator

not that i don't agree with but here's a ponder for you you say gods years are millions years here on earth. maybe god lives some where around a black hole this would explain the extreme time lag in prompt answering of prayers.

Why that's wrong as well as Correlation =/= causation.
You wouldn't happen to be a Mormon, by chance?

Proud to be a dreaded atheist i just thought it could explain why god doesn't save the babies who die horribly every year. from preventable reasons i my humble opinion god as a force for good seems to be a big failure.

bahahaha! Prayer? Lmao! Are you serious? You wanna know how prayer, works, or rather DOESN'T work? It's the very system of how 'God answers prayers' which is always with "Yes." "No." Or "Wait." Now, lets say that 'God' is a jug of milk, I mean people have prayed to all manor of objects symbols and images, right? So you pray to the jug and you ask for money, and the jug can only answer your prayers in the form of yes no or wait. A week later you get an unexpected check in the mail from the government. Or, perhaps four months later you get a raise at your job, or perhaps nothing happens at all.

That there seems to be 'God answering prayers' in the form or yes, no, or wait. But the truth of the matter is that the money that you got (or didn't get) had nothing to do with the jug of milk you prayed to, just as your prayers aren't heard by any sort of supreme being like God. The fact of the matter is that events happen to people all over the world at random times for random reasons and they have nothing to do with reward or punishment from god or any kind of divine influence whatsoever. The sad truth is that God is imaginary, and its cruelty to guide other people to believe anything else. Just like it defines cruelty to console a widow by telling her that her husband is in a better place, and it defines cruelty to make a person resist their natural urge to resist suffering in the belief that something better will be rewarded in the afterlife.

Religion is mental slavery, and it also doubles as a form of child abuse.

But, seriously, religion has GOT to die, and we MUST kill it!