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Anecdotal reports that we have of all these events are important for establishing a hypothesis however quantifiable results must be gathered and although not completely necessary it would certainly be nice if a rational methodology could be produced to explain those effects.
 
     
 
Science certain does take the unexplained seriously. If not, there would not be an Anomalies Research Lab at Princeton. Take a look atP.E.A.R There are others to be found as well.
     
sasamiblue
Im not just talking about ghosts , angels, demons, magic, bigfoot, and things like that.
To be a scientist, you must give up hope.

We can look at the facts and let the facts decide, rather than hoping for a better, fancier way of doing something. Coral Castle was constructed by a man who was a stone mason for 15 years and a logger for 10. He had an understanding on how to move heavy objects with levers and pulleys. It doesn't take energy vortexes to move it, when there are pictures of him moving stones with a tripod. And while that tripod couldn't move all of the stones, it also doesn't prove that was his only one.

It was built by a man who had knowledge that was probably lost, because better ways of doing thing(like with a fork lift or crane) had came into being. It's insulting to tack on "supernatural" forces to a human achievement like that.
 
     
 
What about E.V.P. (Electronic Voice Phenomena)? Do they take that seriously?
     
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What about E.V.P. (Electronic Voice Phenomena)? Do they take that seriously?

It's called "wishful thinking."
 
     
Romuel
I mean, here in M&R we have kind of a schizophrenia on the subject. We either have 'My faith tells me homos r bad' or we have Eteponge.
 
Well I'm pretty sure a civilization did occer before before ours, but I still need to check some of my sources. Anyone hear of the Piri Reis Map? It was discreadited (I am sorry about spelling) because it didn't match our maps about the time period. Then another scientist brought it up and asked why. Most of the places it looks at are still covered in ice, which is how other maps show it, most of these places you can not see underneath the ice because of how thick it is. With modern age tech we can see through the ice from space. THe map was put to the test. It match almost perfect detail to the underside of many ice covered islands, and Antartica. Small distortions were found in Antartica's coast on the map, but it was a near perfect represention of it. Then their is the Buache's map which depicts Antartica exactly how it would look under the ice around Buache's time period, or as close as we can recreate it. That and several other maps dipict Antartica that same way, from different makers from around the world, and all of them claim that they got it from some anchaint source from cenrtries before their time. That and we have found maps with latatude near perfectly placed. Latatude couldn't be tracked across the oceans becuase you need a clock to detimine speed back when they were made, so how did they do it? These maps and several other mystores still abound from anchaint times, could their have been some Atlantis like civilization that could do what we did in the past, but better? Looking like it.
     
Elden Andel
These maps and several other mystores still abound from anchaint times, could their have been some Atlantis like civilization that could do what we did in the past, but better?

Ah! I have just what you're looking for! Piri Reis hates snakesand Bauche It.
Here's my favorite part of the document, A note by our hero regarding "Antarctica":
Piri Reis
This land is uninhabited. Everything is in ruin (barren?) and it is said that large snakes are found here. For this reason the Portuguese infidels did not land on these shores and these are also said to be very hot.

Back then, it was commonplace to put an arbitrary continent (oft dubbed "terra australia incognito" wink to "balance out" the world (i.e if there's a North Pole, there's a South Pole). The size and shape changed over the years, but they still kept sticking it in. The above note by Piri Reis demonstrates just how little was actually known about it.
As for Atlantis....it's possible. I bet my boobs they weren't as technologically advanced as some people may think, but an island nation sinking into the sea has happened before.
 
     
 
Wait... large snakes... very hot... it is either the egcact opposite of ireland, or it was actually a perdiction about the pet snakes being let loose in Florida! ANd thanks for the sources, just about 500 to go...
     
Elden Andel
Wait... large snakes... very hot... it is either the egcact opposite of ireland, or it was actually a perdiction about the pet snakes being let loose in Florida! ANd thanks for the sources, just about 500 to go...

Side note: the legend of St. Patrick "driving the snakes out of Ireland" is a metaphor for him converting all the pagans/druids to Christianity.

Scratch those 500 sources. The majority are likely to be more Sci-Fi crap.
 
     
 
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Elden Andel
Wait... large snakes... very hot... it is either the egcact opposite of ireland, or it was actually a perdiction about the pet snakes being let loose in Florida! ANd thanks for the sources, just about 500 to go...

Side note: the legend of St. Patrick "driving the snakes out of Ireland" is a metaphor for him converting all the pagans/druids to Christianity.


A true statement. Saint Patrick more then likely 'liberated apostates', those who refused to convert. Such a loving, christian thing to do isn't it?

The funny thing is I'm not even angry about it any more. lol. About 2 years ago I would be ranting about how ******** up Saint Patty was but now I can go *shrug*. It's always fun to point out how screwed up the church is tho'. You know how I roll wink
     
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Not sci-fi crap trust me, most are checking out clean, book with a good rep, people who's ideas are respected in their fields. So far so good.
 
     
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Elden Andel
Not sci-fi crap trust me, most are checking out clean, book with a good rep, people who's ideas are respected in their fields. So far so good.

Pseudoscience is not a field.
Anything about alien astronauts, highly advanced ancient tech, hich-tech pyramid construction, and other wacky stuff including pre-Cap'n Hook Antarctic discovery is false.
     
I think the whole idea behind science is that it studies the natural world (ie. things that can be observed directly and measured, or inferred through things that can be) as opposed to the supernatural (all the things you are talking about), so it basically falls outside that realm of study.
 
     

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I think the whole idea behind science is that it studies the natural world (ie. things that can be observed directly and measured, or inferred through things that can be) as opposed to the supernatural (all the things you are talking about), so it basically falls outside that realm of study.

Exacta. 3nodding
     
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